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West Hills, California, United States (91307)
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 Lat: 33.81N, Lon: 118.29W
Wx Zone: CAZ041 ICAO Used: KHHR
Area Discussion for County Warning Area LOX:
FXUS66 KLOX 272300 CCA
AFDLOX

SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
300 PM PST FRI NOV 27 2009

.SYNOPSIS...

A COLD LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL DROP DOWN THROUGH CALIFORNIA AND
IMPACT OUR AREA TONIGHT AND SATURDAY...BRINGING COLDER TEMPERATURES
...A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...AND POSSIBLY LOW 
ELEVATION SNOW. BEHIND THIS COLD WEATHER SYSTEM...A WARMING TREND 
WILL ENSUE WITH OFFSHORE WINDS LASTING INTO MID WEEK.

&&

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT-SUNDAY)...THE LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY PLACES 
THE APPROACHING COLD UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM VERY NEAR THE 
BAY AREA. VISIBLE SATELLITE PIXS AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST 
THAT THE SURFACE COLD FRONT EXTENDS FROM NEAR RENO NEVADA ACROSS THE 
SIERRA TO A POINT ALONG THE COAST JUST NORTH OF OUR CWA. VERY LITTLE 
OR NO PRECIPITATION DEPICTED ON RADAR ACROSS THE CENTRAL VALLEY OR 
CENTRAL COAST ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOUTHERN END OF THE FRONT. MOST 
COMMON SENSIBLE WEATHER ELEMENT AFFECTED BY THE COLD FRONT AT THIS 
TIME IS THE WINDS WHICH IMMEDIATELY INCREASE WITH THE FRONTS 
PASSAGE. ANTICIPATE THIS TO CONTINUE AS THE FRONT CONTINUES TO MARCH 
SOUTH INTO THE CWA. HAVE INCREASED WINDS ALONG THE COAST THIS 
EVENING AND RAISED THE WIND ADVISORY FLAGS FOR THE MOUNTAINS AND 
SOUTH COAST OF SANTA BARBARA COUNTY ACCORDINGLY. GUIDANCE SUGGESTS 
GUSTS COULD REACH 45 MPH THROUGH AND BELOW THE PASSES OF THE SANTA 
YNEZ RANGE. WINDS ALSO STRONG ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS AND THE 
ANTELOPE VALLEY. WILL HOIST GALE WARNING FOR SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL 
TO GO WITH EXISTING GALES ON OUTER WATERS AND MAY NEED TO ADD WIND 
ADVISORY FOR AV THIS EVENING. 

AS FOR PRECIPITATION...WILL NEED TO WAIT FOR THE UPPER LOW... 
INSTABILITY...AND GOOD COLD ADVECTION LATER TONIGHT AND ON SATURDAY. 
18Z MODELS STILL FORECAST THIS TO TAKE AN INSIDE-OVERLAND-TRACK 
WHICH WILL LIMIT PRECIPITATION ACROSS OUR CWA. PRECIPITATION WILL BE 
VERY DYNAMIC IN NATURE AND GIVEN FORECAST 500 MB TEMPS OF -26C 
SUGGEST THE POSSIBILITY OF THUNDERSTORMS WITH PRECIPITATION FOCUSED 
ON MOUNTAIN SLOPES...BUT A CHANCE EXISTS IN ALL AREAS. AT THIS TIME 
BELIEVE QPF AMOUNTS WILL BE 1/2 INCH OR LESS ALTHOUGH HIGHER AMOUNTS 
WILL BE POSSIBLE IN ANY THUNDERSTORMS. SNOW LEVELS STILL LOOK LIKE 
THEY WILL DROP TO NEAR 4500 FEET WITH 3-6 INCHES LIKELY THUS OUR 
FIRST WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY CONTINUES FOR THE LA/VTU CO. MOUNTAINS 
BUT WITH MINOR ADJUSTMENT IN TIMING. 

UPPER LOW IS FORECAST TO BE OVER THE CWA ON SATURDAY WITH 500 MB 
TEMPS REACHING -26C. SHOULD BE COLDEST AND CLOUDIEST DAY OF THE 
ENTIRE FORECAST PERIOD WITH WINDS SLOWLY TAPERING OFF. A FAR CRY 
FROM THE 80S JUST YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. 

SYSTEM QUICKLY MOVES OFF TO THE SOUTH AND EAST ON SUNDAY AND A 
MODERATE OFFSHORE WIND EVENT WILL ENSUE. ANY PRECIPITATION WILL 
QUICKLY COME TO AN END AND GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT THERE WILL BE SOME 
UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT FOR THIS OFFSHORE EVENT AND THUS MAY VERY WELL 
SEE OFFSHORE WINDS REACHING ADVISORY LEVELS.  

IF THIS WASN'T ENOUGH...LARGE SWELLS TO CONTINUE ALONG OUR COAST 
WITH SURF REPORTS AT VENTURA HARBOR THIS AFTERNOON OF 7-10 FEET WITH 
ISOLATED SETS TO 12 FEET! WEST FACING BEACHES BEING THE ONES MOST 
AFFECTED WITH HIGH RIP CURRENT POTENTIAL. THESE ADVISORIES TO  
CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY. SEE MARINE PRODUCTS FOR FURTHER DETAILS.  

.LONG TERM (MONDAY-FRIDAY)...OFFSHORE FLOW PATTERN SHOULD BEGIN 
WEAKENING FOR THE START OF THE WORK WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL STILL 
LIKELY WARM INTO MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS THE RIDGE AXIS MOVES OVER THE 
REGION AND THE AIR MASS STAGNATES.

MODELS ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH A DEVELOPING CLOSED LOW PRESSURE 
SYSTEM THAT SNEAKS INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND IS FORECAST BY THE 
GFS TO APPROACH THE WEST COAST BY LATE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY UNDER A 
BUILDING RIDGE IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC. 12Z ECMWF MINORS THIS SYSTEM 
AND MAINTAINS A GENERAL RIDGE ALONG THE COAST. WITH A LACK OF 
CONFIDENCE BETWEEN THE MEDIUM-RANGE SOLUTIONS...FORECAST REMAINS 
CLOSER TO CLIMATOLOGY.

&&

.AVIATION...27/1800Z.

LOW TO MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IS CURRENT TAFS. EXPECT GUSTY WINDS TO 
DEVELOP OVER THE CENTRAL COAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...BUT 
BELOW 30 KTS. SHOWERS LIKELY TO ARRIVE N OF POINT CONCEPTION BEFORE 
08Z...THEN S OF POINT CONCEPTION BEFORE SUNRISE. UNCERTAIN WITH 
CIGS/VSBYS ASSOCIATED WITH SHOWERS...BUT WILL LIKELY STAY MVFR. 
THERE IS ALSO A SLIGHT CHANCE OF TSTMS WITH THIS SYSTEM....BUT  
GIVEN THE PERCENTAGE CHANCE (15-20%) WILL NOT MENTION IN CURRENT  
TAFS...AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SITUATION CLOSELY.

KLAX...MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN CURRENT TAF. CHANCE OF SHOWERS TO 
ARRIVE BEFORE SUNRISE...WITH MVFR CONDS LIKELY. THERE IS A SLIGHT 
CHANCE OF TSTMS TONIGHT AS WELL...MAINLY AFTER 08Z.  

KBUR...MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN CURRENT TAF. CHANCE OF SHOWERS WITH 
MVFR CONDS TO ARRIVE AFTER MIDNIGHT...WITH SLIGHT CHANCE TSTMS AS 
WELL.

&&

.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
HIGH SURF ADVISORY (SEE LAXCFWLOX). 
HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK (SEE LAXSRFLOX).
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY (SEE LAXWSWLOX). 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX).
GALE WARNING (SEE LAXMWWLOX).
MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT (SEE LAXMWSLOX).
WIND ADVISORY (SEE LAXNPWLOX). 
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT (SEE LAXSPSLOX).

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS/PUBLIC...TRM/GOMBERG 
AVIATION/MARINE...MEIER
FIRE WEATHER......GOMBERG

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