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Verdugo City, California, United States (91046)
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 Lat: 34.21N, Lon: 118.24W
Wx Zone: CAZ547 ICAO Used: KBUR
Area Discussion for County Warning Area LOX:
FXUS66 KLOX 030553
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SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
955 PM PST WED DEC 2 2009

...NEW AVIATION DISCUSSION...

.SYNOPSIS...

EXPECT SOME MARINE LAYER CLOUDS AND PATCHY FOG TONIGHT AND THURSDAY 
MORNING OVER THE COAST AND VALLEYS. COOL TEMPERATURES WILL PERSIST 
THURSDAY. WEAK OFFSHORE FLOW WILL DEVELOP FRIDAY...WARMING 
TEMPERATURES AND CLEARING OUT THE MARINE LAYER. A LOW PRESSURE 
SYSTEM WILL MOVE INTO THE AREA MONDAY...WITH RAIN BECOMING LIKELY.

&&

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT-SAT)...MARINE INVERSION NEAR 4000 FT DEEP AT 
LAX THIS EVENING. SOME OFFSHORE GRADIENT TRENDS AND OFFSHORE FLOW 
AT A FEW THOUSAND FEET OFF THE GROUND WAS MINIMIZING LOW CLOUD 
DEVELOPMENT AND COVERAGE OVER AREAS S OF POINT CONCEPTION THIS 
EVENING. SOME STRATOCU WAS LINGERING FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON BUT 
HAVE LARGELY DISSIPATED THIS EVENING. DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE IF LOW 
CLOUDS WILL REFORM OVERNIGHT...ALTHO THE WRF BOUNDARY LAYER RH 
FORECAST WOULD INDICATE PERHAPS PATCHY LOW CLOUDS COULD DEVELOP. N 
OF POINT CONCEPTION IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY AS LOW CLOUDS HAVE 
BECOME WIDESPREAD OVER THE COAST AND SANTA YNEZ VALLEY AND SHOULD 
PERSIST OVERNIGHT. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO AFFECT THE SALINAS RIVER 
VALLEY LATE TONIGHT AS WELL. OTHERWISE IT APPEARS MOST OF THE 
DISTRICT WILL HAVE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TONIGHT.

AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE IS EXPECTED TO BUILD OFF THE CENTRAL CA COAST 
ON THU...THEN WEAKEN WHILE MOVING INLAND OVER CA ON FRI. BROAD UPPER 
LEVEL TROFFINESS WILL THEN MOVE INTO THE STATE FOR FRI NIGHT AND 
SAT. LITTLE IN THE WAY OF MOISTURE WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER 
TROF ON SAT...WITH DRY WEATHER EXPECTED TO LINGER OVER THE FORECAST 
AREA THU THRU SAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE WEAK OFFSHORE FLOW 
OVER THE AREA LATER TONIGHT INTO THU MORNING...WITH STRONGER 
OFFSHORE FLOW EXPECTED THU NIGHT INTO FRI...ESPECIALLY OVER PORTIONS 
OF VTU/L.A. COUNTIES. GUSTY NE CANYON WINDS WILL DEVELOP THU NIGHT 
BUT AT THIS TIME IS APPEARS WINDS WILL REMAIN BELOW ADVISORY LEVELS 
FOR THE MOST PART. THE LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BE RATHER WEAK FRI NIGHT 
THEN TURN ONSHORE AND INCREASE ON SAT. MARINE LAYER CLOUDS WILL BE 
PUSHED OFF THE COAST THU NIGHT AND FRI...BUT SOME MAY RETURN TO THE 
CENTRAL COAST FRI NIGHT INTO SAT MORNING. OTHERWISE MOSTLY CLEAR 
SKIES CAN BE EXPECTED OVER THE REGION THRU FRI...THEN SOME HI CLOUDS 
WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION FRI NIGHT AND SAT FOR PARTLY CLOUDY 
CONDITIONS AT TIMES. TEMPS OVER THE REGION ARE EXPECTED TO BE 
SLIGHTLY MILDER ON THU BUT STILL A COUPLE OF DEGREES BELOW 
NORMAL...THEN WARM TO AROUND SEASONAL NORMS FOR FRI BEFORE FALLING 
BACK TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL SAT.

...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...

.LONG TERM (SUN-WED)...PRETTY ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN NEXT WEEK. ON 
SUNDAY, THE MODELS ARE NOW IN DECENT AGREEMENT SHOWING THE COLD 
UPPER LOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE OMEGA BLOCK ACTUALLY RETROGRADING 
OFFSHORE. THE GFS HAD EARLIER INDICATED THIS LOW DROPPING SOUTH INTO 
THE GREAT BASIN SO MODEL AGREEMENT HAS IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY. BUT 
THIS ACTUALLY SLOWS THE ARRIVAL OF THE MOISTURE INTO OUR AREA, SO IT 
NOW APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY OF SUNDAY WILL REMAIN DRY. HOWEVER, 
HEIGHTS WILL BE FALLING PRETTY RAPIDLY, ALLOWING THE MARINE 
INVERSION TO DEEPEN SIGNIFICANTLY, PERHAPS SIMILAR TO TODAY'S LEVEL. 
THUS, A COOL AND CLOUDY DAY EXPECTED SUNDAY WITH JUST PARTIAL 
AFTERNOON CLEARING AT BEST.

ALL MODELS NOW ON BOARD WITH THE FIRST SHOT OF RAIN ARRIVING INTO 
THE AREA EITHER SUNDAY NIGHT OR MONDAY MORNING. THE CANADIAN AND THE 
ECMWF SHOW THE SURFACE LOW ABOUT 300 MILES NORTHWEST OF SFO 12Z MON 
WITH A GOOD WARM FRONTAL PATTERN SETTING UP OVER SO CAL. THIS 
PATTERN TYPICALLY PRODUCES A STEADY, BUT MOSTLY LIGHT RAIN FOR OUR 
AREA, THOUGH IT REMAINS TO BE SEE HOW MUCH SOUTHERLY FLOW SETS UP TO 
POSSIBLY ENHANCE THE RAIN ALONG THE MOUNTAIN SLOPES. 

MODELS START TO DIVERGE TUE, THOUGH IT'S MAINLY THE GFS THAT IS THE 
OUTLIER HERE SHOWING THAT UPPER LOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE OMEGA 
BLOCK DROPPING SOUTH INTO THE GREAT BASIN AND PUSHING THE MOISTURE 
SOUTH OF THE AREA AND USHERING IN A LOT OF COLD AIR. FOR NOW HAVE 
DECIDED TO IGNORE THE GFS AND WENT WITH THE EC/CANADIAN SOLUTION. 
THIS SOLUTION MAINTAINS A RELATIVELY WARM, MOIST FLOW OF AIR ACROSS 
THE AREA TUE WITH PERIODS OF RAIN CONTINUING, AGAIN MOSTLY ON THE 
LIGHTER SIDE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW MUCH 
SOUTHERLY FLOW SETS UP. 

NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE ON WED, THOUGH IF THERE IS A BREAK IN THE WET 
WEATHER NEXT WEEK WED WILL LIKELY BE THE DAY WE SEE THE LEAST AMOUNT 
OF PRECIP. ALTHOUGH THURSDAY IS BEYOND THE CURRENT FORECAST CYCLE, 
THAT COULD BE THE WETTEST DAY NEXT WEEK AS THE ECMWF SHOWS THE BEST 
MOISTURE/SOUTHERLY FLOW COUPLING THAT COULD GENERATE HEAVIER RAIN.

&&

.AVIATION...

03/0555Z...

MARINE LAYER ABOUT 015 NORTH OF POINT CONCEPTION AND MARINE LAYER 
CLOUDS WILL COVER THE COASTS AND VLYS THROUGH MID TO LATE MORNING.

MARINE LAYER IS 3700 DEEP SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION BUT HAS BEEN 
DISRUPTED TO THE POINT WHERE CLOUDS HAVE NOT FORMED. WITH FLOW 
TRENDING OFFSHORE THERE IS A SLIGHTLY BETTER CHC THAT CLOUDS WILL 
NOT REFORM OVER MUCH OF THE AREA. BUT STILL THERE IS ABOUT A 40 
PERCENT CHANCE OF CLOUDS DEVELOPING OVERNIGHT WHERE THEY ARE NOT 
FORECAST AND A SIMILAR 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF CLOUDS NOT DEVELOPING 
WHERE THEY ARE FORECAST.

KLAX...SO SO CONFIDENCE IN TAF WITH A 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF NO CLOUDS 
AT ALL.

KBUR...SO SO CONFIDENCE IN THE CURRENT TAF. THERE IS A 40 PERCENT 
CHANCE OF MVFR CIGS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10Z AND 17Z.

&&

.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NONE

&&

$$

PUBLIC...SIRARD/WOFFORD
AVIATION...ASR
SYNOPSIS...MEIER

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