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Thatcher, Colorado, United States
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 Lat: 37.56N, Lon: 104.03W
Wx Zone: COZ088 ICAO Used: KTAD
Area Discussion for County Warning Area PUB:
FXUS65 KPUB 282154
AFDPUB

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PUEBLO CO
254 PM MST SAT NOV 28 2009

.SHORT TERM...
(TONIGHT AND SUNDAY)

CURRENTLY...UPPER LOW CONTINUES TO DROP SOUTH OVER CALIFORNIA...WITH 
EXTENSIVE SWATH OF MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS OVER SOUTHERN COLORADO. 
REGIONAL RADAR/SATELLITE LOOPS SHOW CONVECTION BREAKING OUT NEAR THE 
4 CORNERS...WITH A FEW LIGHTNING STRIKES MOVING INTO EXTREME 
SOUTHWEST PORTIONS OF THE STATE. INITIAL PRE-FRONTAL TROUGH/WIND 
SHIFT HAS MOVED THROUGH ALL OF THE EASTERN PLAINS...THOUGH BULK OF 
THE COLDER AIR MASS IS BEHIND THE TRUE COLD FRONT CURRENTLY DROPPING 
SOUTH THROUGH THE ARKANSAS VALLEY AS OF 21Z. SLOWER ARRIVAL OF THE 
COLD AIR MASS HAS LED TO SOME FAIRLY WARM TEMPS OVER THE FAR EASTERN 
PLAINS...WITH THE LOWER ARKANSAS VALLEY CLIMBING INTO THE LOW 60S 
AHEAD OF THE FRONT. 

TONIGHT...UPPER LOW CONTINUES TO DROP SOUTH...REACHING NORTHERN 
MEXICO BY 12Z SUNDAY MORNING. FLOW ALOFT OVER MOST OF COLORADO 
BECOMES BROADLY DIFFLUENT OVERNIGHT...WITH NAM/GFS HINTING AT A WEAK 
PIECE OF UPPER ENERGY EJECTING FROM THE LOW AND ROTATING NORTHWARD 
TOWARD SOUTHWEST COLORADO BY EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. STILL APPEARS 
BEST LOCATION FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATION WILL BE OVER THE 
SOUTH FACING SLOPES OF THE SAN JUANS WHERE DYNAMIC AND OROGRAPHIC 
LIFT IS MAXIMIZED. WOULD LIKE TO SEE STRONGER SOUTHWESTERLY MID 
LEVEL FLOW FOR BIG SNOW AMOUNTS... BUT COULD SEE ACCUMULATIONS 
APPROACHING 8 INCHES AT LOCATIONS LIKE WOLF CREEK PASS. 
ELSEWHERE...FORCING FOR PRECIP IS PRETTY MINIMAL...WITH ONLY WEAK 
UPSLOPE AND DIFFLUENCE CREATING LIFT. THUS TRIMMED BACK POPS 
OVERNIGHT...ESPECIALLY NORTHERN SECTIONS WHERE LIFT IS WEAKEST. BEST 
BET FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW OVERNIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE SAN JUANS WILL BE 
OVER THE SOUTHERN SANGRES...SOUTH OF LA VETA PASS...WHERE A COUPLE 
INCHES COULD FALL. FOR THE I-25 CORRIDOR...MAY NOT SEE MUCH MORE 
THAN FLURRIES OR VERY LIGHT SNOW FROM MONUMENT HILL TO 
WALSENBURG...WITH 18Z NAM SHOWING NO PRECIP AT KCOS AND KPUB THROUGH 
THE NIGHT. 

SUNDAY...UPPER LOW CONTINUES ITS SLOW DRIFT SOUTH INTO MEXICO...WITH 
BEST LIFT SINKING SOUTH OF COLORADO DURING THE DAY. HIGHEST POPS 
WILL OVER THE MOUNTAINS ALONG THE NM BORDER...WHERE 2 TO 4 INCHES OF 
ADDITIONAL SNOW IS LIKELY OVER THE HIGHER PEAKS OF THE SAN JUANS AND 
SANGRES. COULD SEE SOME ACCUMULATIONS ALONG THE RATON MESA AS 
WELL...THOUGH AMOUNTS WILL ONLY BE IN THE 2 TO 4 INCH RANGE HERE AS 
WELL.  BEGAN TO TAPER BACK POPS NORTHERN SECTIONS...ESPECIALLY LATE 
IN THE DAY...AND WILL NOTE THAT IF NAM VERIFIES...AREAS ALONG AND 
NORTH OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER WILL SEE LITTLE IF ANY SNOWFALL. GIVEN 
THE LACK OF STEADY PRECIP...SUSPECT MAX TEMPS WILL BE ON THE WARMER 
SIDE OF GUIDANCE...SO NUDGED NUMBERS UP SLIGHTLY.  

.LONG TERM...
(SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)

SUNDAY NIGHT...THE UPPER LOW IS FORECAST TO DROP DOWN ACROSS SW AZ
DURING THE EVENING...WHILE THE NORTHERN TIER TROUGH AXIS ROTATES
ACROSS THE NE CORNER OF COLORADO. THERE IS A CONTINUED SLIGHT
CHANCE FOR SOME PCPN ACROSS THE CWA SUN NIGHT...BUT IT SEEMS TO
QUICKLY COME TO AN END BY MIDNIGHT. THEREFORE...TAPERED POPS BACK
AND REALLY CUT THEM MIDWAY THROUGH THE NIGHT. FAVORED AREAS OVER
THE EASTERN SAN JUANS MIGHT SEE AN ADDITIONAL INCH OF SNOW
ACCUMULATION.

MONDAY AND TUESDAY...MODELS AGREE ON TRACKING THE UPPER LOW WELL 
SOUTH ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDERS OF AZ AND NM...KEEPING CO UNDER A 
BROAD AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE AND DRY CONDITIONS. LATEST GFS RUN WANT 
TO EDGE THE PCPN BAND BACK UP ACROSS THE SE CORNER OF THE STATE BY 
TUE AFTN...BUT FOR NOW LEFT THE FORECAST AREA DRY UNTIL TUE NIGHT.

TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...AS THE SOUTHERN UPPER LOW TRACKS 
ACROSS TEXAS TUE NIGHT AND OUT OF THE REGION...ANOTHER LARGER LOW 
PRESSURE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO DROP DOWN OUT OF CANADA AND ACROSS 
THE UPPER MIDWEST. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MODELS 
THEMSELVES AND BETWEEN RUNS...BUT THERE HAVE BEEN HINTS OF A 
SLIGHTLY MORE WESTERN POSITIONING OF LOBES OF ENERGY ROTATING AROUND 
THE LOW BACK DOWN ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE STATE. BRISK N-NW 
FLOW IS EXPECTED TO BE IN PLACE BEGINNING WED...AND FAVORED AREAS 
FOR POSSIBLE PCPN WILL BE THE HIGHER TERRAIN...RAMPART RANGE AND THE 
PALMER DIVIDE. ONGOING POP GRIDS MIGHT BE OVERDONE WITH THIS 
EVENT...ESPECIALLY IF THE UPPER TROUGH TRACKS MORE EAST...BUT FOR 
NOW THE FORECAST TREND IS REASONABLE AND WILL MAINTAIN.

FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...THE 12Z GFS RUN HAS ANOTHER LOW DROPPING OUT 
OF CANADA AND DOWN ACROSS THE N ROCKIES ON FRI...BRINGING STRONG 
WESTERLY FLOW TO COLORADO PRIOR TO A HEALTHY DOSE OF MT SNOW ON SAT. 
THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE 00Z RUN LAST NIGHT...AND IS OUT 
OF PHASE WITH WHAT THE ECMWF HAS AS A SOLUTION. THEREFORE CONFIDENCE 
IS LOW AND WILL NOT MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS AT THIS TIME. MOORE

&&

.AVIATION...
EXPECT CLOUDS TO THICKEN AND LOWER OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE AREA...WITH
MOUNTAINS BECOMING OBSCURED BY CLOUDS AND SNOW SHOWERS AFTER 06Z.
MVFR TO IFR CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST FOR MOST MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS
FROM 06Z-18Z...WITH CONDITIONS IMPROVING TO VFR FROM NORTH TO
SOUTH AFTER 18Z. AT KCOS AND KPUB TAF SITES...COULD SEE SOME PATCH
MVFR CIGS IN THE 10-18Z TIME-FRAME DUE TO SNOW SHOWERS...WITH
CONDITIONS IMPROVING TO VFR AFTERWORDS. AT KALS...PATCHY MVFR CIGS
WILL DEVELOP AFTER 10Z...WITH A COUPLE PERIODS OF IFR CIGS/VIS DUE
TO SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE FROM 10Z-17Z.

&&

.PUB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 5 PM MST SUNDAY FOR COZ068.

&&

$$

10/27


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