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Saddle Rock, New York, United States
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 Lat: 40.79N, Lon: 73.75W
Wx Zone: NYZ077 ICAO Used: KLGA
Area Discussion for County Warning Area OKX:
FXUS61 KOKX 011137
AFDOKX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
637 AM EST TUE DEC 1 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS TO THE SOUTH TODAY AND THEN EAST OF THE 
AREA WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE OVER THE GULF 
COAST STATES WILL THEN MOVE NORTHEAST TOWARD THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY...WITH WINDY AND RAINY CONDITIONS 
EXPECTED AS ITS TRAILING FRONTAL SYSTEM CROSSES THROUGH THE LOCAL 
AREA. HIGH PRESSURE WILL RETURN LATER THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. 
ANOTHER STORM MAY IMPACT THE AREA ON THE WEEKEND.

&&

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/...
SHORTWAVE SHEARS THROUGH NORTH OF THE REGION THIS MORNING INTO 
AFTERNOON...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE SLIDING EAST OF THE REGION. 
SCT-BKN STRATO-CU WITH SHORTWAVE PASSAGE...BUT SHOULD BE A MAINLY 
DRY DAY WITH DEEP WESTERLY FLOW. SCATTERED SPRINKLES/FLURRIES FAR
N&W THRU THE EARLY AFTERNOON. GUSTY WSW FLOW TODAY. HIGH
GENERALLY IN THE MID TO UPPER 40S...NEAR SEASONABLE.

&&

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY/...
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS S AND THEN SE OF THE REGION TONIGHT WITH GOOD 
RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDS EXPECTED. LOW TEMPS MAINLY IN THE 
30S...20S PINE BARRENS/INTERIOR VALLEYS...AROUND 40 NYC. SOME PATCHY 
FOG POSSIBLE IN FAR OUTLYING AREAS.

FOR THE MOST PART MODELS IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH BAJA LOW EJECTING 
INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TONIGHT...RACING TOWARDS THE NE WED NIGHT 
AROUND A LARGE DIGGING MID WEST TROUGH. SHORTWAVE ENERGY REACHING 
INTO W NY BY THURS MORN. GFS IS STRONGEST AND FURTHER SE OUTLIER 
WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY.

AS A RESULT...LOW PRESSURE ORGANIZING OVER THE GULF STATES WILL RACE 
NE...UP THE W SIDE OF THE APPALACHIANS WED NIGHT...INTO WESTERN NY BY 
THURS MORNING. GFS IS STRONGEST AND FURTHEST SE OUTLIER. 

HAVE STAYED CLOSER TO FURTHER WEST AND WEAKER MODEL CONSENSUS...BETTER
CONSISTENCY.

INCREASING CLOUDS WED...LOWERING/THICKENING WED AFTERNOON IN ADVANCE 
OF THE SYSTEM. OVERRUNNING LIGHT RAIN LIKELY DEVELOPING FROM SW TO NE 
LATE WED AFTERNOON INTO WED EVENING...THEN MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN 
AND RISING TEMPS LIKELY WED NIGHT/EARLY THU MORNING AS A 70-80 KT 
SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL JET TRANSPORTS GULF/ATLANTIC MOISTURE NORTHWARD 
AHEAD OF THE LOW AND A TRAILING COLD FRONT. 

DEFINED THETA-E RIDGING WITH STRONG LLJ AND MARGINAL ELEVATED 
INSTABILITY APPEARS STRONG ENOUGH FOR SOME EMBEDDED THUNDER. 

WITH A 70+ LLJ AT 900 HPA...WATER TEMPS STILL IN THE LOWER 50S...AND 
A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN THE INLAND LOW AND HIGH PRESSURE 
OVER THE ATLANTIC WOULD SUGGEST THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVISORY CRITERIA 
WINDS (25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH) ACROSS 
NYC...COASTAL SECTIONS AND THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS LATE WED NIGHT
INTO EARLY THURS MORNING.

EXACT TIMING OF FRONT STILL TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE...BUT PRECIP 
SHOULD QUICKLY TAPER OFF THURS MORN IN WAKE OF COLD FRONT AS 
SHORTWAVE AND SURFACE LOW RACE NE INTO SOUTHERN QUEBEC/NORTHERN NEW 
ENGLAND. AS IT APPEARS CURRENTLY...BREEZY WESTERLY FLOW...PARTIAL 
CLEARING IN WAKE OF LOW...AND SLOW CAA...WILL MAKE FOR A MILD 
AFTERNOON ON THURSDAY WITH EARLY HIGHS IN THE 60S...SEVERAL
DEGREES ABOVE SEASONABLE.

&&

.LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/...
DECENT MODEL AGREEMENT IN THE FIRST PART OF THE LONG TERM...HOWEVER 
MODEL DIFFERENCES POP UP DURING THE WEEKEND. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN 
BEHIND THE DEPARTING STORM THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH AT LEAST FRIDAY. 
WILL KEEP THIS PERIOD DRY. MODELS DO SHOW FALLING HEIGHTS AND 
COOLING OF TEMPERATURES ALOFT...HOWEVER...COLD ADVECTION AT THE 
SURFACE WILL PROBABLY BE TEMPERED TO A DEGREE BY A DOWNSLOPING 
WESTERLY FLOW. HIGHS THEREFORE ON FRIDAY EXPECTED TO BE AT OR 
SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL.

SATURDAY IS A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST. H5 TROF AND SHORTWAVE 
APPROACHES FROM THE WEST...WITH THE TIMING OF ITS PASSAGE DIFFERING 
AMONG THE MODELS. BEST GUESS WOULD BE FOR IT TO PASS THROUGH LATE 
DAY SATURDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT. MED RANGE GUIDANCE ALL SHOW COASTAL LOW 
DEVELOPMENT OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST AND PASSING EAST OF THE 40/70 
BENCHMARK. TRACK IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON 
THIS. WILL THEREFORE GO WITH CHC POPS ON SATURDAY AND SATURDAY 
NIGHT. THERMAL PROFILES WOULD SUPPORT RAIN/SNOW MIX FOR 
SATURDAY...AND TREND MORE TOWARDS SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT. HIGHS RANGING 
IN THE UPPER 30S TO LOW 40S ON SATURDAY.

RIDGING THEN RETURNS AT THE SURFACE SUNDAY AND MONDAY WITH A DRY 
FORECAST AND SLOWLY MODERATING TEMPERATURES.

&&

.AVIATION /12Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/...
LIGHT WINDS THIS MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES IN. SOMEWHAT 
STRONGER WINDS WITH BETTER MIXING THIS AFTERNOON. 

SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARD TO DIRECTION. LOWER SPEEDS SHOULD BE 
240-260. HIGHER GUSTS MAY BE 280-300 DEG. WINDS SHOULD STAY LEFT OF 
310 OVERALL.

SCT040 IN TAFS MAY ACTUALLY BE BKN AT TIMES THIS AFTERNOON. 

TAF COMMENTS (FORECASTER INSIGHT ON TIMING, CONFIDENCE, TRENDS AND GROUND OPS)

KEWR...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KEWR HOURLY WIND FORECAST
ALL WIND DIRECTIONS ARE TRUE...ADD 13 DEGREES FOR MAGNETIC
     01/10Z 25007KT    
     01/11Z 25007KT    
     01/12Z 25007KT    
     01/13Z 25008KT    
     01/14Z 26009KT    
     01/15Z 26010G17KT 
     01/16Z 27013G22KT 
     01/17Z 28013G22KT 
     01/18Z 26013G22KT 
     01/19Z 26013G21KT 
     01/20Z 25012G20KT 
     01/21Z 25011G17KT 

KJFK...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KLGA...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KTEB...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KHPN...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KSWF...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KISP...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KBDR...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

KGON...FORECAST ON TRACK...NO UNSCHEDULED AMENDMENTS 
ANTICIPATED

OUTLOOK 12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY... 
TUE NIGHT-WED...VFR
WED NIGHT-THU...SUB-VFR LIKELY WITH IFR PROBABLE. LLWS PSBL. 
TSTMS PSBL.
THU NIGHT-FRI...GUSTY NW WINDS. BCMG VFR.
FRI NIGHT...VFR WITH DIMINISHING WINDS.
SAT...VFR LIKELY WITH SUB-VFR POSSIBLE.

&&

.MARINE...
WINDS AND SEAS ON THE OCEAN STILL REACHING SCA LEVELS EARLY THIS 
MORNING. EXPECT WINDS AND SEAS TO DIMINISH SLIGHTLY LATER THIS 
MORNING...BUT CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN RIGHT AROUND SCA 
LEVELS INTO THIS EVE. WILL LEAVE HEADLINES AS IS...BUT DAY SHIFT 
WILL NEED TO MONITOR TRENDS AND COULD CANCEL THE ADVISORY EARLIER.   

CONDS THEN REMAIN BELOW SCA LEVELS UNTIL WED NIGHT AS STRONG LOW 
PRES LIFTS UP THE SPINE OF THE APPALACHIANS. GALES ARE A DEFINITE 
POSSIBILITY INTO THU...BUT STILL TO EARLY FOR A GALE WATCH. DAY 
SHIFT WILL LIKELY PUT THE WATCH UP THIS AFTN. STORM FORCE GUSTS ARE 
ALSO A POSSIBILITY...PRIMARILY ON THE OCEAN WATERS...BUT IT WILL 
DEPEND ON HOW INVERTED WE ARE. WILL CONTINUE TO HEADLINE GALES AND 
ADD THE POSSIBILITY OF STORMS IN THE HWO.

WINDS AND SEAS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH THU NIGHT...WITH ALL BUT THE 
OCEAN WATERS FALLING BELOW SCA LEVELS. SEAS WILL TAKE A BIT LONGER 
TO SUBSIDE...THEREFORE SCA MAY BE NEEDED INTO FRI. A COASTAL STORM 
PASSING TO THE EAST MAY CAUSE FLAGS TO RETURN ON SAT.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...
STRONG LOW PRESSURE COULD BRING 1-2 INCHES OF RAIN WED NIGHT INTO 
THU. 

STILL TOO EARLY TO SAY WHETHER ANOTHER COASTAL LOW COULD BRING 
ANOTHER ROUND OF SIGNIFICANT QPF THIS WEEKEND.

&&

.TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...
THE APPROACH OF A FULL MOON WILL KEEP ASTRONOMICAL TIDES HIGH OVER 
THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. AN INCREASING SOUTHERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED 
WITH LOW PRES PASSING TO THE WEST COULD CAUSE MINOR COASTAL 
FLOODING...MAINLY IN THE SOUTH SHORE BACK BAYS OF LONG ISLAND THU 
MORNING. THE STRONGEST WINDS LOOK TO OCCUR RIGHT AROUND THE TIME OF 
HIGH TIDE...BUT DUE TO THE FAIRLY QUICK PROGRESSION OF THE 
STORM...WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE SW AND DECREASE SOME BY THE EVENING 
HIGH TIDE CYCLE. DEPARTURES OF 1-1.5 FT ARE NEEDED TO REACH MINOR 
COASTAL FLOODING LEVELS IN THE MORNING...2-2.5 FT IN THE EVENING. 
MODERATE FLOODING APPEARS UNLIKELY DUE THE SHORT DURATION OF THIS 
EVENT...BUT WILL STILL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE MORE VULNERABLE SOUTH 
SHORE BACK BAY LOCATIONS OF NASSAU COUNTY.

STORM SURGE GUIDANCE IS INDICATING THE GFS REMAINS THE STRONGEST 
WITH THE SYSTEM...HENCE STRONGER WINDS AND LARGER DEPARTURES IN THE 
STORM SURGE GUIDANCE. HAVE GONE MORE OF AN NAM/EC/SREF ROUTE SO NOT 
TAKING THE GUIDANCE VERBATIM.

&&

.OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CT...NONE.
NY...NONE.
NJ...NONE.
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT FOR ANZ350-353-
     355.

&&

$$
SYNOPSIS...NV
NEAR TERM...NV
SHORT TERM...NV
LONG TERM...
AVIATION...BS
MARINE...AL
HYDROLOGY...NV
TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...AL


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