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Palms, Michigan, United States (48465)
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 Lat: 43.61N, Lon: 82.77W
Wx Zone: MIZ055 ICAO Used: KBAX
Area Discussion for County Warning Area DTX:
FXUS63 KDTX 090921
AFDDTX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
421 AM EST WED DEC 9 2009

.SHORT TERM...TODAY

A DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS CENTRAL ILLINOIS WILL QUICKLY 
MOVE NORTHEAST TO NORTHERN LAKE HURON BY THIS AFTERNOON. A 
SIGNIFICANT DRY SLOT SHOWS ON WATER VAPOR IS MAKING ITS WAY INTO 
SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN...WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE BACK EDGE OF THE 
HIGHEST REFLECTIVITIES MOVING INTO SOUTHERN MICHIGAN. THE DRY SLOT 
WILL PROVIDE A PERIOD OF LOWER PRECIP CHANCES AS MUCH OF THE 
MOISTURE IS STRIPPED OUT OF THE MIDDLE LAYERS. THE STRIPPED OUT 
MOISTURE AND WARMER TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGEOVER FROM 
SNOW TO RAIN EARLY THIS MORNING WITH THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA 
ALREADY AT ALL RAIN AT ISSUANCE. WITH THE DRIER AIR...WARMER 
TEMPERATURES AND THE SLOW CHANGEOVER TO RAIN THE HEADLINES WILL 
EXPIRE AT THEIR DESIGNATED TIMES FROM SOUTH TO NORTH AS THE IMPACT 
FROM HEAVY SNOW AND MIXED WINTERY PRECIPITATION DECREASES EARLY THIS 
MORNING. 

AS THE LOW HEADS OFF TOWARDS NORTHERN LAKE HURON THIS AFTERNOON COLD 
AIR WILL ADVECT BACK INTO THE AREA CHANGING THE RAIN BACK OVER TO 
SNOW FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. DESPITE THE CHANGEOVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW 
THE BEST MOISTURE FROM THIS SYSTEM WILL BE OUT OF THE CENTRAL GREAT 
LAKES...WITH ONLY LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON.

AS THE LOW PASSES TO THE WEST...THE HEART OF THE DRY SLOT WILL MOVE 
INTO THE CWA AROUND NOON AS STRONG ISENTROPIC DESCENT AND A VERY 
TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT BRING EXTREMELY WINDY CONDITIONS TO THE AREA 
TODAY. THE STRONG DESCENT WILL BRING STRONG 925 MB WINDS TO THE 
SURFACE AS SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 45 TO 55 KNOTS AT THIS LEVEL ALONG AND 
SOUTH OF M-59 WARRANTS A HIGH WIND WARNING WHERE THE PREVIOUS WATCH 
WAS ISSUED. A BIT FURTHER NORTH OF M-59...925 WINDS WILL BE A BIT 
LIGHTER AT 35 TO 40 KNOTS...WHICH WILL PROBABLY NOT MEET HIGH WIND 
WARNING CRITERIA BUT WILL CERTAINLY BE HIGH ENOUGH FOR A WIND 
ADVISORY. THEREFORE WILL ISSUE THIS HEADLINE JUST NORTH OF THE HIGH 
WIND WARNING. THE ONE EXCEPTION WILL BE THE SAGINAW VALLEY WHICH 
WILL BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE TRACK OF THE LOW FOR A LIGHTER PRESSURE 
GRADIENT AND FAR ENOUGH NORTHWEST TO NOT BENEFIT AS MUCH FROM THE 
ISENTROPIC DESCENT AND DRY SLOT FURTHER SOUTH. WITH THE LESS 
FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WILL OPT TO LEAVE THE 3 COUNTIES ENCOMPASSING 
THE SAGINAW VALLEY OUT OF THE WIND HEADLINES.

&&

.LONG TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY

BIG STORY: COLD AIR AND GUSTY WINDS WILL PRODUCE A PROLONGED PERIOD 
WITH WIND CHILLS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS TO SLIGHTLY BELOW ZERO TONIGHT 
THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL ALSO BE 
POSSIBLE THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH ACCUMULATIONS OF A FEW INCHES 
POSSIBLE.

STORY OVERNIGHT WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF COLD AIR ADVECTION AND 
WINDY CONDITIONS BEHIND THE FRONT. WIND HEADLINES WILL CONTINUE 
UNTIL 4 AM AS TIGHT SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT...ISENTROPIC 
DESCENT...AND GOOD THERMAL SUPPORT CONTINUE TO MIX HIGHER GUSTS DOWN 
TO THE SURFACE. IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE WILL BE A LULL IN ACTIVITY 
DURING THE EARLY MORNING AS THE LOW LIFTS AWAY...BEFORE WINDS BEGIN 
TO INCREASE AGAIN BY LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH THE AREA 
OF STRONG SURFACE LOW PRESSURE WILL HAVE LIFTED NORTHEAST INTO 
QUEBEC...A STRONG DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING TO OUR SOUTHWEST 
WILL ACTUALLY REINTENSIFY THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BEHIND THE DEPARTING 
SYSTEM. IT IS POSSIBLE WE MAY NEED ANTIHERO SET OF WIND HEADLINES 
FOR TOMORROW AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY GIVEN CONTINUED THERMAL SUPPORT 
FROM COLD AIR ADVECTION. MODELS HOLD THE TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT 
OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT AND INTO THE 
FIRST HALF OF FRIDAY...AS BOTH THE LOW TO OUR NORTHEAST AND THE HIGH 
TO OUR SOUTHWEST SHIFT EAST TOGETHER. CHILLY TEMPERATURES WILL 
SETTLE INTO THE REGION TONIGHT WITH LITTLE RECOVERY EXPECTED FOR 
DAYTIME HIGHS ON THURSDAY. BOTH LOWS TONIGHT AND HIGHS ON THURSDAY 
WILL BE FROM THE MID TEENS TO LOW 20S. COLD TEMPERATURES WILL 
CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH CHILLY MORNING LOWS RANGING FROM 8-14 
AND HIGHS ONLY IN THE LOW 20S. 

STRONG WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN WITH LAKE TO H850 DELTA T 
VALUES STARTING AT 17 C AND FALLING TO 27 C BY THURSDAY 
AFTERNOON...ALONG WITH A FAIRLY DEEP SATURATED LAYER AND GOOD 
LOW/MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL ALL SUPPORT LAKE EFFECT SNOW FROM 
TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. ALTHOUGH THE WHOLE FORECAST AREA WILL SEE 
CHANCES FOR THESE SHOWERS...MODEL WIND CONVERGENCE FIELDS SHOW 
SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL BANDING STRETCHING MAINLY FROM I-69 DOWN TO 
THE OHIO BORDER DURING THIS PERIOD. ACCUMULATIONS OF A FEW INCHES 
OVERALL ARE POSSIBLE SOUTH OF I-69.

HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FRIDAY NIGHT AND 
SATURDAY...WITH LIGHTER WINDS AND A MORE SOUTHERLY COMPONENT HELPING 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS END ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. DRIER 
AIRMASS AND DEEP LAYER SUBSIDENCE MAY ALLOW THE SUN TO PEAK OUT AS 
WELL. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN COLD AND BELOW NORMAL...BUT SHOULD 
MODERATE SEVERAL DEGREES FROM FRIDAY UNDER VERY WEAK WARM AIR 
ADVECTION. 

MODELS THEN SHOW A STRONG UPPER WAVE AND JET STREAK RIDING THROUGH 
WESTERN CANADA...AS WEAKER SHORTWAVE ENERGY DROPS DOWN THE 
CALIFORNIA COAST. AS THE RESULTANT ELONGATED TROUGH FORMED BY THESE 
TWO SYSTEMS BEGINS TO PUSH EASTWARD...MODELS SPIN UP AND LIFT A 
FAIRLY STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NORTHEAST OUT AHEAD OF IT. 00Z 
EURO LIFTS THIS SYSTEM UP INTO MICHIGAN ON MONDAY...WHILE THE 00Z 
GFS LIFTS IT MORE INTO WISCONSIN AND MINNESOTA ON SUNDAY NIGHT. 
TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW IS STILL TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE ESPECIALLY 
GIVEN THE VARIABILITY MODELS HAVE SHOWN OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH 
THESE TWO WAVES...BUT THIS SYSTEM COULD BE THE NEXT ONE TO WATCH. 
CURRENT TRACKS TO THE NORTH AND WEST WOULD ALLOW WARMER AIR TO SURGE 
UP INTO THE REGION ALONG WITH THE MOISTURE (00Z EURO/GFS SHOWS 925 
TEMPS RISING ABOVE FREEZING)...BUT GIVEN THE COLD AIRMASS THAT WILL 
ALREADY BE ENTRENCHED WELL TO OUR SOUTH...THIS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY 
MEAN RAIN WOULD FALL. HAVE LET THE INHERITED FORECAST RIDE SINCE 
THIS SOLUTION HAS JUST COME TOGETHER AND WILL MONITOR IN FUTURE RUNS.

&&

.MARINE...

LOW PRESSURE IN NORTHERN ILLINOIS AT 985 MB WILL DEEPEN TO 975 MB 
OFFSHORE OF KENOSHA WISCONSIN DURING THE MORNING AND THEN MOVE INTO 
NORTHERN LAKE HURON TONIGHT. EASTERLY GUSTS TO STORM FORCE REMAIN 
EXPECTED OVER THE NORTH HALF OF LAKE HURON AS THE SYSTEM 
APPROACHES...AND THEN OVER THE SOUTH HALF DOWN TO WESTERN LAKE ERIE 
TONIGHT AS THE SYSTEM EXITS THE REGION. IN BOTH CASES, COLD AIR 
BEING DRAWN OVER THE WATER WILL LEAD TO ENOUGH INSTABILITY FOR DEEP 
TURBULENT MIXING OF STRONG WINDS ALOFT DOWN TO THE LAKE SURFACE.

AN ADDITIONAL MAJOR IMPACT OF THIS STORM WILL BE WAVE HEIGHTS WITH 
THE ONSHORE FLOW. WAVE HEIGHTS IN EXCESS OF 22 FEET WILL BE POSSIBLE 
ACROSS THE WESTERN WATERS OF LAKE HURON NORTH OF SAGINAW BAY. THERE 
WILL BE A LULL IN THE WINDS AS THE LOW CENTER TRACKS THROUGH 
NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A STRONG 
POLAR COLD FRONT THAT WILL SLICE THROUGH SOUTHERN LAKE HURON...LAKE 
ST CLAIR...AND THE MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE THIS AFTERNOON AND 
TONIGHT. A SECONDARY TIME PERIOD FOR STORM FORCE WINDS WILL OCCUR 
ALONG AND BEHIND THIS FRONT FOR SOUTHERN LAKE HURON SOUTH THROUGH 
WESTERN LAKE ERIE. A PROLONGED PERIOD OF GALE FORCE WINDS ARE THEN 
EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 1218 AM EST WED DEC 9 2009 

AVIATION...

SNOW IS IN THE PROCESS OF MIXING WITH AND CHANGING TO RAIN IN THE 
DETROIT AREA. THIS CONDITION WILL SPREAD NORTHWARD TO PONTIAC AND 
FLINT DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS BUT EXPECT SNOW TO REMAIN THE 
PRIMARY TYPE AT SAGINAW. WITH MBS AS AN EXCEPTION, THE TRANSITION
TO RAIN WILL EASE AVIATION CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION
BUT MILD AIR MOVING IN FROM THE SOUTH WILL KEEP CEILING AND
VISIBILITY IN THE IFR/LIFR RANGE AS THE LOW MOVES THROUGH CENTRAL
LOWER MICHIGAN.

THE MAIN STORY FOR THE DAYTIME HOURS WILL BE THE WIND. THE DRY
SLOT OF THIS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL REDUCE THE PRECIPITATION TO
SPOTTY LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS OR DRIZZLE DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.
IMPROVEMENT IN CEILING AND VISIBILITY WILL COME AT THE EXPENSE OF
SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTING TO 40 KNOTS WITH A FEW GUSTS NEAR 50 KNOTS
POSSIBLE AS COLD AIR SPILLS BACK INTO THE REGION. THE GUSTY
CONDITIONS WILL THEN LAST WELL INTO THE EVENING WHILE TURNING
TOWARD THE WEST. THIS WIND DIRECTION AND THE COLD AIR WILL DIRECT
SNOW SHOWERS INTO THE AREA FROM LAKE MICHIGAN, MAINLY TOWARD
PONTIAC AND FLINT.

&&

.DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...WINTER STORM WARNING...MIZ047-MIZ048...UNTIL 10 AM WEDNESDAY.

     HIGH WIND WARNING...MIZ063-MIZ068-MIZ069-MIZ070-MIZ075-MIZ076-
     MIZ082-MIZ083...FROM NOON WEDNESDAY TO 4 AM THURSDAY.

     WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...MIZ055-MIZ060-MIZ061-MIZ062...UNTIL 7 AM 
     WEDNESDAY.

     WIND ADVISORY...MIZ049-MIZ054-MIZ055-MIZ060-MIZ061-MIZ062...FROM 
     NOON WEDNESDAY TO 4 AM THURSDAY.

     WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...MIZ049-MIZ053-MIZ054...UNTIL 10 AM 
     WEDNESDAY.

LAKE HURON...
     GALE WARNING...LHZ361-LHZ362...FROM 7 PM WEDNESDAY TO 4 PM FRIDAY.

     STORM WARNING...LHZ361-LHZ362...UNTIL 7 PM WEDNESDAY.

     GALE WARNING...LHZ363-LHZ462-LHZ463-LHZ464...FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 
     4 PM FRIDAY.

     STORM WARNING...LHZ363-LHZ421-LHZ441-LHZ442-LHZ443-LHZ462-LHZ463-
     LHZ464...UNTIL 4 AM THURSDAY.

     GALE WARNING...NEARSHORE WATERS FROM PORT AUSTIN TO PORT HURON 
     INCLUDING OUTER SAGINAW BAY...FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM 
     FRIDAY.

     GALE WARNING...INNER SAGINAW BAY...UNTIL 4 AM FRIDAY.

LAKE ST CLAIR...
     GALE WARNING...FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM FRIDAY.

     STORM WARNING...UNTIL 4 AM THURSDAY.

MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...
     GALE WARNING...FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM FRIDAY.

     LOW WATER ADVISORY...FROM NOON WEDNESDAY TO 7 PM THURSDAY.

     STORM WARNING...UNTIL 4 AM THURSDAY.

&&

$$

SHORT TERM...KURIMSKI
LONG TERM....HLO
MARINE.......KURIMSKI
AVIATION.....BT

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