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Orting, Washington, United States (98360)
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 Lat: 47.10N, Lon: 122.2W
Wx Zone: WAZ505 ICAO Used: KPLU
Area Discussion for County Warning Area SEW:
FXUS66 KSEW 302300
AFDSEW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
300 PM PST MON NOV 30 2009

.SYNOPSIS...A COLD FRONT OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON WILL MOVE SOUTH 
THIS EVENING...WITH CLEARING BEHIND IT. AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE AND 
SURFACE HIGH BUILDING OVER THE REGION TONIGHT WILL KEEP THE AREA DRY 
THROUGH THURSDAY. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL BRING A CHANCE OF RAIN TO 
THE AREA FRIDAY THOUGH MONDAY.

&&

.SHORT TERM...THE RAPIDLY WEAKENING COLD FRONT OVER WESTERN WA THIS 
AFTERNOON SEEMS ABOUT FINISHED. SEEMS WHAT IS LEFT IS WEAK 
CONVERGENCE BETWEEN THE NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND THE COLD FRONT AND 
SOUTH WINDS RUNNING UP PUGET SOUND. WILL KEEP A CHANCE OF RAIN GOING 
THIS EVENING TO COVER THIS...THEN DRY AND SOME CLEARING AFTER 
THAT...AS THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OFFSHORE TAKES OVER.

WITH CLEARING LATER TONIGHT THIS IS A GOOD SETUP FOR AREAS OF FOG 
AND LOW CLOUDS TO FORM BY TUESDAY MORNING. WITH FAIRLY DRY AIR OVER 
THE N INTERIOR WOULD EXPECT LESS FOG/LOW CLOUD FORMATION THERE. 
HOWEVER THE NAM BOUNDARY LAYER RH SHOWS A VERY MOIST AIR MASS OVER 
PUGET SOUND FROM EVERETT SOUTHWARD THAT HANGS AROUND INTO THE 
AFTERNOON. WILL PLAN ON SOME PARTIAL CLEARING FROM SEA-TAC NORTHWARD 
TUESDAY AFTERNOON...BUT KEEP TACOMA SOUTHWARD CLOUDED UP. WITH NE 
FLOW ALSO EXPECT UPSLOPE CLOUDS/FOG TO PLAGUE THE STRAIT OF JUAN DE 
FUCA INTO EARLY TUESDAY AFTERNOON. 

THE SURFACE HIGH BUILDING OVER B.C. TONIGHT EVENTUALLY MOVES SE OVER 
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES BY THURSDAY. THIS WILL SHIFT THE SURFACE FLOW 
AROUND TO AN EASTERLY DIRECTION ALLOWING SOME DOWNSLOPE DRYING FROM 
THE CASCADES TO DEVELOP. DRY AIR FROM THE SUBSIDENCE INVERSION 
SHOULD ALSO WORK DOWN TOWARD THE SURFACE. NET EFFECT WILL BE TO CUT 
BACK ON THE FOG/LOW CLOUD COVERAGE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. MAX/MIN 
TEMPS WILL BE CLOSE TO CLIMO. OVERNIGHT CLEARING WILL ALLOW MINS TO 
DROP INTO THE UPPER 20S IN THE COLDER AREAS WITH 30S ELSEWHERE. 
HIGHS SHOULD TOP OUT IN THE 40S. COLDEST MORNINGS WILL BE WEDNESDAY 
THURSDAY...AND IT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISING TO SEE A COUPLE SPOTS 
REACH THE MID 20S. KAM 

.LONG TERM...GFS AND ECMWF ARE STILL BUTTING HEADS WITH OPPOSITE 
SOLUTIONS WITH AN APPROACHING UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH ON 
FRIDAY. OPERATIONAL GFS HAS TRENDED DRIER AND FASTER AND TAKES THE 
SHORTWAVE ACROSS SE B.C. FRIDAY WITH NO PRECIP OVER W WA. ECMWF IS 
SLOWER AND FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE SHORTWAVE...FORMING A CLOSED LOW 
JUST OFFSHORE NEAR 48N/130W 12Z FRIDAY...THEN KEEPING IT AROUND THE 
AREA THROUGH THE WEEKEND. GFS EVENTUALLY HAS A CLOSED LOW OVER ID ON 
SATURDAY BUT STAYS DRY FOR W WA. ECMWF IS A LITTLE WETTER. THE 12Z 
CANADIAN SHIFTED AROUND TOWARD THE ECMWF SOLUTION AND 7 OF THE 12 
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS FROM THE 12Z GFS FAVOR SOME FORM OF CLOSED LOW OVER 
THE REGION SATURDAY. NONE OF THE SOLUTIONS SEEMS COMPLETELY 
REASONABLE BUT THE VARIOUS SOLUTIONS TILT TOWARD SOMETHING CLOSER TO 
THE ECMWF SCENARIO. THE BEST COURSE FOR NOW IS TO CONTINUE WITH LOW 
CHANCE POPS FOR RAIN FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THE ECMWF IS NOT 
PARTICULARLY WET SO POPS BELOW CLIMO WORK OK. KAM

&&

.HYDROLOGY...NO HYDROLOGICALLY SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL IS EXPECTED FOR 
THE NEXT 10 DAYS...OR THROUGH WEDNESDAY DEC 9TH. A WEAK COLD FRONT 
AND RESIDUAL CONVERGENCE  WILL BRING SOME LIGHT RAIN FROM PUGET 
SOUND SOUTHWARD THIS EVENING. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW MAY BRING A LITTLE 
MORE LIGHT RAIN TO THE AREA FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...ALTHOUGH THERE 
IS STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT HOW THE UPPER LOW PATTERN WILL 
EVOLVE. REGARDLESS...THE CURRENT TENDENCY FOR HIGH AMPLITUDE RIDGING 
OFFSHORE ALONG 135W OR SO IS NOT A HEAVY RAIN OR FLOODING PATTERN. 
THE HIGH-AMPLITUDE RIDGING WILL PROBABLY BREAK DOWN DURING THE 
MIDDLE OF DECEMBER...WITH A SHIFT TO A WETTER PATTERN. KAM

&&

.AVIATION...WEAK COLD FRONT MOVING INTO THE CASCADES THIS AFTERNOON. 
RADAR SHOWS A PROBABLE PUGET SOUND CONVERGENCE ZONE FORMING IN 
SNOHOMISH COUNTY...SURFACE WINDS SUPPORT THIS IDEA. HIGH PRES WILL 
BUILD OVER CENTRAL BRITISH COLUMBIA BEHIND THE FRONT. WESTERLY FLOW 
ALOFT WILL BECOME MORE NORTHWESTERLY THIS EVENING.

THE PSCZ WILL LIKELY MOVE SOUTH THIS EVENING AND DISSIPATE. WINDS... 
MOST OF WHICH ARE CURRENTLY SOUTHERLY THROUGH THE PUGET SOUND 
TERMINALS...WILL TURN NORTHERLY THIS EVENING. VISIBLE SATELLITE 
IMAGERY SHOWS SOME CLEARING BEHIND THE FRONT...BUT ANY CLEARING IS 
LIKELY TO BE SHORT LIVED. CEILINGS WILL DEFINITELY LIFT A BIT AFTER 
THE FRONT PASSES...FROM 2K FT TO MORE LIKE 4K FT. HOWEVER CEILINGS 
ARE LIKELY TO FALL AGAIN LATE TONIGHT...POSSIBLY INTO THE IFR OR 
EVEN LOW IFR CATEGORY.

KSEA...SW WIND 10-20 KT AS THE FRONT PASSES THIS AFTERNOON...THEN 
SHIFTING TO NLY 5-8 KT BEHIND THE FRONT BY 03Z OR SO. A LITTLE LIGHT 
RAIN IS POSSIBLE  UNTIL 03Z. PUGET SOUND CONVERGENCE ZONE LIKELY TO 
KEEP CEILINGS AROUND 2K FT THIS EVENING...THERE COULD BE BRIEF 
IMPROVEMENT FOR AWHILE...THEN IFR OR LOW IFR CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE 
AFTER 10Z...CONTINUING INTO TUESDAY MORNING. CHB

&&

.MARINE...WINDS HAVE TURNED WESTERLY IN THE STRAIT AND NORTHWESTERLY 
IN THE NORTHERNMOST INLAND WATERS. WIND ALL AREAS THROUGH PUGET 
SOUND WILL TURN NORTHERLY THIS EVENING. AS TO STRENGTH OF WINDS... 
THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WINDS OFF THE COAST AND 
WILL MAINTAIN THAT ADVISORY INTO THE EVENING. EXPECTING THE REST OF 
THE ZONES TO FALL BELOW 20 KT...IF NOT IMMEDIATELY THEN SOON.

HIGH PRES WILL BUILD BEHIND THE FRONT OVER CENTRAL BRITISH COLUMBIA 
TONIGHT THEN SHIFT SOUTHEAST INTO EASTERN WASHINGTON BY WEDNESDAY. 
WINDS WILL TURN MORE NORTHEASTERLY OVERNIGHT AND DIMINISH IN 
STRENGTH.

SWELL ON THE COAST HAS SUBSIDED INTO THE 12-14 FT RANGE...AND IS 
FORECAST TO FALL BELOW 10 FT ON TUESDAY.

MODELS DISAGREE ABOUT WHETHER ANOTHER COLD FRONT COULD MOVE 
SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE WATERS LATER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY...SO WILL NOT 
HIT THIS EVENT HARD FOR NOW. CHB

&&

.SEW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WA...NONE
PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY COAST.
     SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH GRAYS HARBOR BAR.

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