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Neosho Falls, Kansas, United States (66758)
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 Lat: 38.01N, Lon: 95.56W
Wx Zone: KSZ071 ICAO Used: KCNU
Area Discussion for County Warning Area ICT:
FXUS63 KICT 251745
AFDICT

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS
1145 AM CST WED NOV 25 2009

.AVIATION...18Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU
LATEST WATER VAPOR LOOP WAS SHOWING A WELL DEFINED DEFINED DRY
SLOT IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE POTENTIAL VORTICITY ANOMALY MOVING
SOUTHEAST ACROSS CENTRAL KANSAS. THIS DRY SLOT IS A SIGN OF STRONG
SUBSIDENCE ACROSS THIS AREA WHICH IS HELPING AID THE MOMENTUM
TRANSFER AND BETTER MIXING. AS A RESULT...WE HAVE KEPT SUSTAINED WIND
SPEEDS IN THE 20 TO 25KT RANGE ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA TODAY. CNU
TAF SITE IS STILL AROUND 10KTS...DUE TO THE CLOUD COVER.
HOWEVER...THESE CLOUDS SHOULD DEPART DURING THE NEXT HOUR AND
ALLOW FOR BETTER MIXING AND MOMENTUM TRANSFER BY 19Z OR SO.
OTHERWISE...SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE AREA TONIGHT
AND THURSDAY AND ALLOW FOR CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHTER WIND SPEEDS
BEGINNING AFTER SUNSET.

COX
&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1045 AM CST WED NOV 25 2009/ 

UPDATE...

REMOVED THE REMAINDER OF PRECIPITATION FROM THE FORECAST AND UPDATED
ALL GRIDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CURRENT TRENDS. MAIN CONCERN IS THE
WIND. UP IN CENTRAL KANSAS IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE MIXING OUT WITH
GUST IN THE UPPER 20S TO 30KTS. COULD BE BORDERLINE WIND ADVISORY
CRITERIA...WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.

DUNTEN

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 543 AM CST WED NOV 25 2009/ 

AVIATION...12Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU

MAIN AVIATION CONCERN WILL BE SOME RELATIVELY LOWER CIGS THIS 
MORNING.

CURRENTLY HAVE A FAST MOVING UPPER WAVE TRACKING SOUTHEAST ACROSS 
NEBRASKA. AHEAD OF THIS WAVE THERE ARE SOME CIGS GENERALLY AROUND 
THE 4,000-8,000FT LEVEL. IN ADDITION A FLURRY OR SPRINKLE MAY 
ACCOMPANY THESE MID LEVEL CLOUDS. THIS AREA OF CLOUDS AND VERY LIGHT 
PRECIP WILL PUSH SOUTHEAST QUICKLY AND BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS MOSTLY 
SUNNY SKIES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN PLACE AREA WIDE. JUST LIKE 
YESTERDAY...NW WINDS WILL AGAIN BE GUSTY...ESPECIALLY OVER CENTRAL 
KS WITH GUSTS TO 30 MPH COMMON.

LAWSON

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 218 AM CST WED NOV 25 2009/ 

DISCUSSION...
TODAY-TONIGHT: 
WELL ADVERTISED SHORTWAVE TROF OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL 
CONTINUE DIGGING SEWD ACROSS THE MID MS VLY TODAY-TONIGHT. THE 
ASSOCIATED FRONTAL ZONE WILL SURGE SWD THRU OUR AREA THIS MORNING. 
DECENT SYNOPTIC SCALE LIFT/MARGINAL MOISTURE ALONG THE FRONT COULD 
RESULT IN A FEW FLURRIES/SPRINKLES THIS AM MAINLY IN CENTRAL 
KS...OTHERWISE MAIN IMPACT OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ANOTHER DAY OF 
GUSTY NW WINDS. NOT ANTICIPATING ADVISORY CRITERIA WINDS...BUT 
CERTAINLY ENOUGH MIXING/GRADIENT FOR THE "WINDY" CATEGORY. SOME PM 
SUN SHOULD HELP OFFSET THE COLD AIR ADVECTION SOME WITH HIGHS 
EXPECTED TO BE RATHER SIMILAR TO YESTERDAYS. LIGHTER WESTERLY WINDS 
TONIGHT AND CLEAR SKIES/DRY AIR WILL LEAD TO LOWS A FEW DEGREES 
BELOW NORMAL.

THURSDAY-SATURDAY:
AFOREMENTIONED UPPER TROF WILL MOVE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND 
NORTHEAST DURING THE PERIOD...WHILE THE UPSTREAM UPPER TROF OVER THE 
NERN PACIFIC MOVES INTO THE WESTERN CONUS. THIS WILL LEAVE OUR AREA 
IN SHORTWAVE RIDGING ALOFT FOR MUCH OF THIS PERIOD WITH BENIGN 
WEATHER...ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES...AND RELATIVELY LIGHT WINDS FOR 
KANSAS STANDARDS. EXCELLENT HOLIDAY TRAVEL WEATHER ON TAP DURING 
THIS TIME PERIOD IN AND SURROUNDING OUR FORECAST AREA. 

SUNDAY-TUESDAY:
MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE HOW THE WESTERN CONUS UPPER TROF EVOLVES 
AS IT MOVES EWD ACROSS THE PLAINS. TO SAY THAT THE GFS RUN TO RUN 
CONTINUITY WITH THE HANDLING OF THIS UPPER TROF IS POOR IS AN 
UNDERSTATEMENT. LAST NIGHT'S 00Z/24 ECMWF CENTERED ON 00Z TUES HAD 
BACK TO BACK RUNS SHOWING A STRONG UPPER LOW EVOLVING OVER THE 
SOUTHERN PLAINS EMPHASIZING THE SRN PIECE OF ENERGY WITHIN THE UPR 
TROF. IT HAD PAINTED A CONCERNING WINTER STORM SCENARIO. THE PAST 2 
RUNS INCLUDING TONIGHTS 00Z/25TH RUN HAVE BACKED AWAY FROM THAT 
SCENARIO AND NOW SHOW THE SYSTEM COMING ACROSS AS A LESS FORMIDABLE 
POSITIVELY-TILTED UPPER TROF. THE ECMWF IS HEAVILY FAVORED BY HPC 
AND WE CONTINUE TO LEAN WITH THIS MODEL. HOWEVER THE FORECAST 
CONFIDENCE IN THIS TIME PERIOD REMAINS LOW GIVEN THE DISCUSSED 
CHANGES IN THE ECMWF AND THE MUCH WORSE GFS MODEL CONTINUITY. AT 
THIS JUNCTURE...WILL FORECAST A CHANCE OF MAINLY RAIN SUNDAY OVER 
S-CNTRL/SERN KS AS MOISTURE INCREASES INTO THE 850-700 MB FRONTAL 
ZONE. THE FRONT IS PROGGED TO PUSH SEWD OUT OF SERN KS SUN NGT AND 
THE RAIN MAY MIX WITH AND END AS LIGHT SNOW. ONCE AGAIN...AS WE HAVE 
SEEN IN THE RECENT COUPLE OF SYSTEMS...COLD AIR SUPPLY IS MARGINAL 
(GIVEN THE ECMWF VERIFIES)...SO NOT EXPECTING ACCUMULATIONS ATTM. 
MON IS LOOKING DRIER AND SLT CHC POPS MAY NEED REMOVAL BY LATER 
SHIFTS. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO FALL BACK CLOSER TO NORMAL SUN-TUES.  

JMC

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
WICHITA-KICT    53  27  54  30 /  10   0   0   0 
HUTCHINSON      52  27  55  31 /  10   0   0   0 
NEWTON          52  28  53  31 /  10   0   0   0 
ELDORADO        52  28  52  31 /  10   0   0   0 
WINFIELD-KWLD   55  29  54  30 /  10   0   0   0 
RUSSELL         51  25  56  30 /  10   0   0   0 
GREAT BEND      51  24  56  30 /  10   0   0   0 
SALINA          51  27  53  30 /  10   0   0   0 
MCPHERSON       51  27  54  31 /  10   0   0   0 
COFFEYVILLE     55  29  51  30 /  10   0   0   0 
CHANUTE         53  28  49  30 /  10   0   0   0 
IOLA            52  27  48  30 /  10   0   0   0 
PARSONS-KPPF    54  29  50  30 /  10   0   0   0 

&&

.ICT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NONE.
&&

$$


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