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Needmore, Indiana, United States
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 Lat: 38.93N, Lon: 86.53W
Wx Zone: INZ070 ICAO Used: KBMG
Area Discussion for County Warning Area IND:
FXUS63 KIND 080233
AFDIND

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN
930 PM EST MON DEC 7 2009

.UPDATE FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT...
NO CHANGES MADE TO CURRENT FORECASTS.  CLOUDS SHOULD CONTINUE 
OVERNIGHT MOST AREAS...ALTHOUGH A FEW HOLES IN THE CLOUD COVER HAVE 
OPENED UP...ONE OVER NORTHEAST INDIANA AND ANOTHER IN THE FAR 
SOUTHWEST.  RAISED TEMPERATURES OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES A DEGREE OR 
TWO IN GRIDS ACROSS OUR SOUTH AND NORTHWEST SECTIONS.  BUT THIS WAS 
 NOT ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY AN UPDATE.

&&

.AVIATION...DISCUSSION FOR THE 00Z TAFS.

WIDESPREAD MVFR CONDITIONS AND MODELS FAVOR KEEPING MVFR CLOUDS IN 
TGNT UNTIL TOMORROW LATE MORNING WHEN SOME MIXING MAY OCCUR AHEAD OF 
STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE SYTEM THAT WILL MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE 
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY REGION LATE TUESDAY NIGHT. MODELS SUGGEST RAIN 
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS THE TAF SITES AFTER 16Z 
TOMORROW. MODELS ALSO SUGGEST CEILINGS WILL DROP TO MVFR OR EVEN IFR 
WITH THE ONSET. WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 10 TO 15 KNOTS FROM THE EAST 
TOMORROW AFTERNOON. BUFKIT SUGGESTS GUSTS TO 20 KNOTS.

&&

.SHORT TERM...

SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS LOW PRESSURE FORMING OVER THE DESERT 
SOUTHWEST AND WEAK HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE SOUTHEAST. VISIBLE 
SATELLITE SHOWS CLOUDY SKIES ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. TEMPERATURES 
WERE IN THE MIDDLE 30S WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 20S TO LOW 30S 
AND WINDS WERE OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST AT 5 TO 10 KTS.

FORECAST FOCUS IS ON WINDS/POPS/PRECIPITATION TYPE WITH TUESDAY 
THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT SYSTEM. AGAIN NAM SEEMS TO BE AN OUTLIER 
WITH TIMING COMPARED TO THE GFS/ECMWF/GEM AND SO WILL DISCARD THE 
NAM SOLUTION AND RELY ON A BLEND OF THE OTHERS.

DRY WEATHER TONIGHT AS WEAK HIGH PRESSURE IS ACROSS THE AREA BETWEEN 
WEATHER SYSTEMS. TUESDAY A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FORMS IN THE 
INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND SCOOTS TO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THIS WILL CREAT 
SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM WITH A FETCH OPENING UP FROM THE 
GULF. ISENTROPIC LIFT ACROSS THE AREA STARTS UP IN THE MORNING AND 
CONDENSATION PRESSURE DEFICITS INDICATE PRECIPITATION STARTING IN 
THE AFTERNOON ACROSS THE AREA. PROBABILITIES ARE HIGHEST EARLIEST IN 
THE SOUTH CLOSEST TO THE LIFT BUT EXPECT THEM TO OVERSPREAD THE 
FORECAST AREA BY 0Z. COULD SEE THINGS BEGIN A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE 
SOUTHERN COUNTIES AND THUS BEGAN LOW CHANCES WITH THEM IN THE 
MORNING. ANOTHER NOTE...ACROSS THE NORTH IN THE AFTERNOON AS THE 
PRECIPITATION STARTS FORECAST SOUNDINGS ARE SHOWING THE WARM AIR 
ARRIVING A LITTLE LATER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS. IF THIS HOLDS TRUE COULD 
SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF SNOW OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX TO BEGIN WITH BEFORE 
CHANGING OVER TO ALL RAIN. HAVE INCLUDED A CHANCE OF SNOW WITH 
LIKELY RAIN IN THE NORTHERN THIRD OF COUNTIES TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS. 
AS THE WARMING RAMPS UP THOUGH THINGS WILL WIND UP BEING ALL RAIN 
AND THUS DO NOT EXPECT ANY SNOW ACCUMULATION. BY TUESDAY NIGHT THE 
FORCING ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA IS SIGNIFICANT...WITH A GREAT 
COMBINATION OF ISENTROPIC LIFT AND UPPER LEVEL Q VECTOR CONVERGENCE. 
A LOW LEVEL JET POINTS TOWARD INDIANA AND PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES 
RISE TO AROUND 200 PERCENT OF NORMAL. THIS SHOULD LEAD TO DECENT 
RAINFALL AMOUNTS ACROSS THE AREA...PERHAPS AROUND AN INCH WITH SOME 
HEAVIER POCKETS. WITH NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH AND GREAT DYNAMICS 
WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP A MENTION OF THUNDER IN THE FORECAST. DESPITE 
GREAT SHEAR EXPECT ANY SEVERE THREAT TO REMAIN SOUTH OF THE AREA 
GIVEN THE LACK OF WARMER AIR /TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE 30S-40S/.

WEDNESDAY WILL SEE A CHANGEOVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW. MODEL CONSENSUS 
MINUS THE NAM SHOWS COLD AIR ARRIVING BETWEEN 12 AND 18Z SIMILAR TO 
PREVIOUS RUNS. WHERE IN THAT SIX HOUR WINDOW CHANGEOVER WILL HAPPEN 
IS STILL TOO TOUGH TO PIN DOWN SO WILL LEAVE RAIN OR SNOW WORDING 
DURING THAT TIME. BY 18Z ALL PRECIPITATION ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA 
SHOULD HAVE CHANGED OVER TO SNOW. A LOT OF THE FORCING WILL HAVE 
MOVED OUT OF THE AREA BY THAT TIME HOWEVER SO LITTLE IS EXPECTED IN 
THE WAY OF ACCUMULATIONS.

THE BIGGEST STORY FOR WEDNESDAY APPEARS TO BE THE WINDS. THE SURFACE 
LOW IS PROGGED TO STRENGTHEN RAPIDLY AS IT MAKES ITS WAY FROM THE 
PLAINS TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MICHIGAN WEDNESDAY. A VERY TIGHT 
PRESSURE GRADIENT ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS LOW WILL MOVE THROUGH 
CENTRAL INDIANA. WINDS LOOK UNIDIRECTIONAL WITH HEIGHT UP TO 3000 TO 
5000 FT AND THIS COULD MIX WINDS OF 40+ KTS /SOME MODELS HIGHER THAN 
50/ DOWN TO THE SURFACE PRODUCING WIND GUSTS OF OVER 40 MPH AND 
POSSIBLY REACHING 60 MPH. WITH POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER GUSTS WILL GO 
AHEAD AT THIS TIME AND ISSUE A HIGH WIND WATCH FOR THE DAY.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT COULD SEE SNOW SHOWERS HANG AROUND IN THE NORTHEAST 
COUNTIES FROM SOME WRAPAROUND BUT LITTLE EXPECTED FOR ACCUMULATIONS. 
DRY WEATHER EXPECTED THURSDAY WITH COLD TEMPERATURES.

FOR TEMPS...FOR TONIGHT GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES ARE CLOSE WITH THE MAV 
A LITTLE BIT WARMER. WITH THE CLOUD COVER AND WARM ADVECTION 
STARTING STUCK WITH THE WARMER MAV. FOR HIGHS TUESDAY WENT A BIT 
ABOVE GUIDANCE CONSIDERING THE WARM ADVECTION.

&&

.LONG TERM...AS FOR THE EXTENDED...A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE 
WILL SETTLE OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES FOR FRIDAY AND 
SATURDAY...PROVIDING SOUTHERLY SURFACE FLOW. WARM AIR ADVECTION ON 
SATURDAY SHOULD PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN MIDDLE AND UPPER LEVEL 
CLOUDS...BUT WITH A LACK OF UPPER SUPPORT AND STRONG FORCING...WILL 
KEEP THE FORECAST DRY FOR NOW. 

THE TAIL OF A COLD FRONT WILL QUICKLY PUSH THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT 
LAKES ON SUNDAY PUSHING ACROSS INDIANA ON SUNDAY NIGHT. BEST 
FORCING WITH THAT SYSTEM IS WELL TO THE NORTHEAST...OVER ONTARIO 
AND QUEBEC...THUS WL ONCE AGAIN KEEP THE FORECAST DRY FOR NOW. WEAK 
HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD BE IN PLACE ON MONDAY...KEEPING THINGS DRY. 
GIVEN THE EXPECTED H8 TEMPERATURES AND THE LACK OF STRONG ADVECTION 
HAVE STAYED CLOSE TO MEXMOS FOR DAILY HIGHS AND LOWS.

&&

.IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
HIGH WIND WATCH FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE WEDNESDAY 
NIGHT FOR INZ021-028>031-035>049-051>057-060>065-067>072.

&&

$$
UPDATE...JH
AVIATION...MK
PUBLIC...CP


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