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 Lat: 35.80N, Lon: 78.7W
Wx Zone: NCZ041 ICAO Used: KRDU
Area Discussion for County Warning Area RAH:
FXUS62 KRAH 050616
AFDRAH

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
115 AM EST SAT DEC 04 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CENTER WILL DEVELOP OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST 
OVERNIGHT... AND MOVE QUICKLY NORTHEAST ALONG THE CAROLINA COAST 
SATURDAY. CHILLY HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN FROM THE WEST ON SUNDAY.

&&

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 955 PM FRIDAY...

FORECAST OF RAIN AS THE PREDOMINATE P-TYPE IS ON TRACK THIS EVENING. 
A CHANGE TO SNOW IN THE NW AND FAR N STILL LIKELY ON SATURDAY 
AFTERNOON... WITH MINOR GRASSY ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE NORTH AND WEST 
OF GREENSBORO. 

THE 00Z/05 DECEMBER DATA ANALYSIS STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE CURRENT 
FORECAST FOR CENTRAL NC. IF ANYTHING... THE DATA SUPPORTS HIGHER QPF 
RAINFALL TOTALS NEARING AN INCH OVER OUR EASTERN AND CENTRAL ZONES 
FOR THE EVENT. THE 00Z/05 GREENSBORO RAOB INDICATED A WARM BOUNDARY 
LAYER WITH THE LOWEST 5K FEET ABOVE 32 DEGREES. HOWEVER... THE MID 
LEVELS HAD COOLED RAPIDLY TOWARD 32 DEGREES SINCE 12Z. THE 
BLACKSBURG SOUNDING INDICATED COLDER AIR UP ALONG THE BLUE RIDGE 
MOUNTAINS WITH THE FREEZING LEVEL AT ABOUT 3K FEET. IN ADDITION... 
THE BLACKSBURG SOUNDING IS A SNOW SOUNDING. AS THE MOISTURE 
INCREASES OVERNIGHT... EVAPORATIVE COOLING WOULD RAPIDLY TAKE THE 
SURFACE TEMPERATURES DOWN TO FREEZING OR BELOW. THIS SOUNDING IS 
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOUNTAINS... AS THE COLD/DRY AIR TO SUPPORT A 
WINTER STORM IS LOCKED UP ALONG AND WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. THIS IS 
CLEARLY DEPICTED ON THE SURFACE ANALYSIS. A WEAKENING 1025 MB HIGH 
WAS CENTERED OVER THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY REGION... WITH RIDGING 
EXTENDING NE OVER PA. DEW POINTS ALONG AND WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE 
WERE MOSTLY IN THE TEENS AND 20S. DEW POINTS EAST OF THE MOUNTAINS 
WERE IN THE 30S AND 40S. THERE WAS NEUTRAL ADVECTION FROM DCA 
SOUTHWARD INTO NC... WITH THE CAA CURRENTLY BLOCKED BY THE 
APPALACHIANS. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE LACK OF THE COLD DRY AIR 
SOURCE (ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MOUNTAINS) TO OUR NORTH IS LACKING 
WITH THIS EVENT... WHICH DOES NOT SUPPORT ACCUMULATING SNOW EAST OF 
THE NW NC FOOTHILLS UNTIL THE COLD AIR FINALLY SURGES THIS WAY VERY 
LATE IN THE EVENT.  

THE LATEST TEMPERATURE PROFILES AND LOW LEVEL THICKNESSES SUPPORT 
ALL RAIN AT GREENSBORO THROUGH 18Z. IT IS AROUND THAT TIME THAT THE 
COLD AIR FINALLY BEGINS TO SURGE INTO OUR REGION FROM THE NW-N. THE 
COLUMN WILL COOL RAPIDLY FROM THE TOP DOWN... AND THE FORECAST 
SOUNDINGS INDICATE A DEEP ISOTHERMAL NEAR FREEZING LEVEL AT 
GREENSBORO BETWEEN 18Z-21Z... WITH ONLY THE BOUNDARY LAYER REMAINING 
IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S. AN AVERAGE OF THE LOW LEVEL THICKNESS'S 
FORECAST AROUND 1310/1540M AT 18Z FOR GSO... SUPPORT A GRADUAL MIX 
WITH SNOW IN THE EARLY AFTERNOON OVER THE NW PIEDMONT. THE 
THICKNESSES THEN FALL TO 1520/1300M BY 00Z/06... SUPPORTING A CHANGE 
TO SNOW BEFORE ENDING. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE NEAR SURFACE 
LAYER TO REMAIN AT OR ABOVE 34. THIS COMBINED WITH THE WARM SURFACE 
LAYER WILL PRECLUDE ANY ACCUMULATING ON THE ROADS. SOME MINOR 
ACCUMULATIONS MAY COLLECT ON GRASSY SURFACE. THE BEST CHANCE OF ANY 
ACCUMULATION APPEARS TO BE WEST AND NORTH OF WINSTON-SALEM... WHERE 
THE TEMPS MAY FALL TO 32 DURING THE SNOW (IF IT CAN REMAIN HEAVY 
ENOUGH FOR SEVERAL HOURS.  

TO THE EAST... THE FORECAST THICKNESSES AND SOUNDINGS INDICATE THAT 
THE COLD AIR WILL RAPIDLY CHASE THE PRECIPITATION AS IT IS ENDING. 
BUT FORECAST THICKNESSES SUGGEST THAT ONLY THE NORTHERN TIER (NORTH 
OF RDU) WOULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE FOR A MIX OR CHANGE TO SNOW IN A NARROW 
WINDOW OF TIME BEFORE ENDING. MINOR SLUSHY ACCUMULATIONS FROM 
ROXBORO AND HILLSBOROUGH TO WARRENTON WOULD BE POSSIBLE. HOWEVER... 
THE WARM WET GROUND (45 DEGREE + TEMPS) AND TIME OF DAY 
(AFTERNOON)... AND WARM BOUNDARY LAYER (34-35 DEGREES AT A MINIMUM) 
ARGUE AGAINST ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. 

QPF LOOKS MORE IMPRESSIVE WITH EACH NEW MODEL RUN... AND WE NOW HAVE 
A HALF INCH TO INCH POTENTIAL THROUGHOUT CENTRAL AND EASTERN NC. 

PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...

A POLAR VORTEX OVER ONTARIO WILL MAINTAIN A VERY ENERGETIC 
SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE EAST COAST THROUGH THROUGH 
SATURDAY EVENING... BY WHICH TIME A VIGOROUS NEGATIVELY-TILTED S/W 
TROUGH ALOFT WILL HAVE CROSSED OUR REGION AND CLEARED OUT CLOUDS AND 
PRECIPITATION. MEANWHILE... A SERIES OF SURFACE WAVES -- ONE OVER 
THE WESTERN GOM AND OTHERS THAT FLANK THE FL PENINSULA (THE LATTER 
TWO OF WHICH SHOULD BECOME DOMINANT) WILL TRACK UP THE SOUTHEAST AND 
MID ATLANTIC COASTS. AN H85 WAVE IS ALSO FORECAST TO CONSOLIDATE 
NORTHEASTWARD FROM NEAR BIRMINGHAM AL AT 00Z THIS EVENING TO WESTERN 
NC BY 12Z SATURDAY. 

TONIGHT: THE LOW LEVEL (H85-925) FLOW WILL ACCORDINGLY BACK TO 
SOUTHEAST/EASTERLY AND TRANSPORT ATLANTIC MOISTURE INLAND AND 
PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF RAIN ACROSS EASTERN AND EVENTUALLY 
CENTRAL NC OVERNIGHT. TEMPERATURES SHOULD ONLY SLOWLY FALL OWING TO 
WIDESPREAD CLOUD COVER... BUT THEN DIP VIA EVAPORATIONAL COOLING TO 
OVERNIGHT LOWS OF ABOUT 40 DEGREES NW TO UPPER 40S SOUTHEAST.

SATURDAY: THE EVOLVING PRECIPITATION SHIELD -- INCLUDING SNOW OVER 
SOUTHEASTERN TX AND DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY MID LEVEL DEFORMATION/ 
FRONTOGENESIS -- IS EXPECTED TO MERGE WITH THE LOW LEVEL-FORCED RAIN 
(BY THE AFOREMENTIONED H85 WAVE) OVER CENTRAL NC BY SATURDAY 
MORNING. WHILE THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION WILL REMAIN IN CLOSER 
PROXIMITY TO THE OFFSHORE PASSING SURFACE LOW... THE PROGRESSIVE 
DEFORMATION BAND SHOULD MAINTAIN MAINLY LIGHT RAIN OVER PORTIONS OF 
CENTRAL NC THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THE MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A QUICK 
PLUNGE OF PARTIAL THICKNESSES FROM 18Z AND 00Z... TO VALUES THAT 
WOULD SUPPORT A BRIEF MIXING WITH OR CHANGING OVER TO SNOW FROM THE 
TRIAD TO ROXBORO AND HENDERSON AREAS THEN PERHAPS AS FAR EAST AS THE 
TRIANGLE (MAINLY CHAPEL HILL AND DURHAM) TO LOUISBURG TO ROANOKE 
RAPIDS BETWEEN 4 PM AND 8 PM. WHILE STORM TOTAL LIQUID EQUIVALENT 
AMOUNTS COULD RANGE FROM ONE QUARTER TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH 
(HELD DOWN BY THE RELATIVELY QUICK MOVEMENT OF THE STORM BUT MADE 
RESPECTABLE BY THE DEGREE OF FORCING FROM THE VERY COLD AND DYNAMIC 
UPPER TROUGH)... ALL BUT PERHAPS SEVERAL HUNDREDTHS OF THAT SHOULD 
FALL BEFORE THE ATMOSPHERE COOLS SUFFICIENTLY TO SUPPORT SNOW. THAT 
SCENARIO WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANY SNOW WOULD MOSTLY MELT ON CONTACT 
DUE TO A PRECEDING WET AND RELATIVELY WARM GROUND (RUNWAY 
TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 40S PER RECENT REPORT FROM GSO AIRPORT). 
HOWEVER... A FEW LOCATIONS MAINLY ALONG AND WEST OF INTERSTATE 85 
COULD PICK UP A QUICK BURST OF A DUSTING (ONE HALF INCH OR LESS)... 
PARTICULARLY IF THE CHANGEOVER WERE TO OCCUR AS RAPIDLY AS THAT 
OBSERVED OVER EASTERN TX TODAY. 

THERE SHOULD ALSO BE A NOTICEABLE AND OCCASIONALLY GUSTY GENERALLY 
NORTHERLY BREEZE AS THE SURFACE LOW DEEPENS OFFSHORE... GENERALLY 10 
TO 15 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 25 MPH. 

SATURDAY NIGHT: CLEARING AND COLDER IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING 
STORM SYSTEM... WITH INITIALLY CAA-DRIVEN AND THEN RADIATIONAL- 
COOLED OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE MIDDLE 20S TO AROUND FREEZING... 
WARMEST SOUTHEAST. 

&&

.SHORT TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 230 AM FRIDAY...

A RATHER STRONG ~1028MB SURFACE HIGH IS EXPECTED TO SHIFT EAST OVER 
NC/VA BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON. GOOD COLD ADVECTION WITH A NW WIND EARLY 
ON SUNDAY WILL RELAX BY MIDDAY AS THE HIGH QUICKLY SHIFTS TO THE VA 
TIDEWATER REGION.  THICKNESSES ONLY CLIMB TO AROUND 1310 BY LATE IN 
THE DAY WITH GOOD COLD ADVECTION EARLY.  INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS 
LATE IN THE DAY MAY OFFSET WARMING POTENTIAL AS COLD ADVECTION 
RELAXES.  WILL LEAN MORE TOWARDS MET GUIDANCE WITH MID TO UPPER 
40S   SURFACE HIGH SHIFTS FURTHER OFFSHORE SUNDAY NIGHT...AS AN 
INVERTED SURFACE TROF DEVELOPS ALONG THE CAROLINA COAST.  
CONCURRENTLY...A WEAK SHORTWAVE MOVING EAT ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT 
LAKES WILL PULL A WEAK AND MAINLY DRY COLD FRONT TOWARD THE AREA ON 
MONDAY.  THE DEPARTING SURFACE HIGH WILL LIKELY LEAVE MUCH OF 
CENTRAL NC QUITE DRY IN THE LOW LEVELS...AND WHILE THE MID LEVELS 
MOISTEN IN RESPONSE TO INCREASING WARM ADVECTION...DONE EXPECT ANY 
MEASURABLE PRECIP...ALTHOUGH A FEW AREA OF VERY LIGHT RAIN COULD BE 
POSSIBLE ALONG THE EASTERN CWA AS THE COASTAL TROF STRENGTHENS.  
WITH ADDED CLOUD COVER... HIGHS MONDAY LIKELY RIGHT AROUND SUNDAY 
VALUES OR SLIGHTLY WARMER...DESPITE INCREASING LOW LEVEL THICKNESSES.

&&

.LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 310 AM FRIDAY...

GENERALLY FLAT W-SWERLY FLOW ALOFT WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE 
BUILDING EAST TO NEW ENGLAND....WHILE A DEEP UPPER LOW SWINGS SOUTH 
THROUGH THE FOUR CORNERS REGION.  THIS WILL BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF 
UNSETTLED WEATHER TO THE REGION BY LATE TUES INTO WED AS THE UPPER 
LOW OPENS UP AND QUICKLY LIFTS NE WITH ITS ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW 
TOWARD THE MIDWEST REGION.  MODELS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON 
THE LARGE SCALE EVOLUTION OF THIS EVENT...WITH A SURFACE HIGH OVER 
THE MID ATLANTIC STATES TUESDAY...AND WARM ADVECTION/OVERRUNNING 
PRECIP KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR BY TUESDAY EVENING.  AS THE MAIN LOW 
LIFTS TO THE MID WEST STATES...THERE WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE 
COASTAL THERMAL MOISTURE BOUNDARY TO RETREAT INLAND...DRAWING HIGHER 
DEWPOINTS AND INSTABILITY INLAND WITH IT.  OF NOTE AT THE 
MOMENT...THE 12Z GFS DEVELOPS A SURFACE WAVE ALONG THE TMB OVER THE 
COASTAL TUESDAY NIGHT...WHICH COULD AUGMENT RAINFALL AND CONVECTIVE 
POTENTIAL IN THE EAST.  ON THE OTHERHAND...THE MOST RECENT 12Z ECMWF 
HINTS AT A SURFACE WAVE IN THE PIEDMONT. DESPITE MODEL AGREEMENT ON 
THE LARGE SCALE PATTERN...GIVEN THESE DIFFERENCES AND SOME OF THE 
RECENT TREND TO SPEED UP THE SYSTEMS PROGRESSION...WILL LEAVE POPS 
AT CHANCE FOR NOW INSTEAD OF TRYING TO NARROW DOWN A SPECIFIC TIME 
FRAME....WITH PRECIP WRAPPING UP LATE WEDNESDAY.  HIGH PRESSURE 
BUILDS BACK OVER THE AREA ON THURSDAY..WITH INDICATION OF ANOTHER 
SYSTEM DEVELOPING ON A SIMILAR STORM TRACK BY THE END OF THE PERIOD.

TEMPS IN THIS TIME FRAME SHOULD GENERALLY BE ABOUT A CATEGORY BE 
ABOVE NORMAL PRIOR TO THE PASSAGE OF THE COLD FRONT...WITH THE 
EXCEPTION BEING IN THE NW HALF OF THE CWA WITH POTENTIAL CAD 
DEVELOPING LATE TUES/WED.  BEHIND THE FRONT...MODELS SUGGEST THE 
CRUX OF COLD AIR WILL REMAIN NORTH OF CENTRAL NC AND TEMPS WILL FALL 
TO AROUND NORMAL IN THE LOWER 50S.

&&

.AVIATION /06Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...
AS OF 115 AM FRIDAY...

VFR CONDITIONS IN THE PIEDMONT (INT/GSO/RDU) AND MVFR CONDITIONS IN 
THE EAST (RWI/FAY) WILL CONTINUE TO STEADILY WORSEN OVERNIGHT... 
DROPPING TO IFR EVERYWHERE (AND POSSIBLY LIFR AT RWI/FAY) BY 
DAYBREAK THIS MORNING. AVIATION CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN POOR 
IMPROVEMENT TO VFR 02Z-06Z THIS EVENING/TONIGHT.

LOW PRESSURE CENTERS SITTING OVER THE NORTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO AND 
OFF THE GA/SC COAST WILL TRACK NORTHEAST AND CONCENTRATE INTO ONE 
DISCRETE LOW OFF THE NC COAST TODAY. STRONG LIFT MECHANISMS AND 
PLENTY OF AVAILABLE MOISTURE WILL GENERATE WIDESPREAD RAIN THROUGH 
TODAY.... ALONG WITH A NORTH BREEZE INCREASING THIS AFTERNOON TO 
SUSTAINED 9-13 KTS. THE WORST CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF MORE MODERATE 
RAIN AND LOWER VSBYS WILL BE AT RWI/FAY/RDU. IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS ARE 
EXPECTED TO DOMINATE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON... THEN AS THE SURFACE 
LOW SHIFTS NORTHEAST AWAY FROM THE NC COAST AND SURFACE WINDS BECOME 
MORE NORTH-NORTHWEST... COLDER AIR WILL ARRIVE AND THE COLD RAIN MAY 
MIX WITH OR CHANGE OVER TO WET SNOW BEFORE ENDING LATE THIS 
AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY EVENING. ANY ACCUMULATION WILL BE VERY LIGHT 
ON THE GRASSY SURFACES ONLY... AND THE BEST CHANCES WILL BE NORTH OF 
INT/GSO/RDU. SKIES SHOULD BEGIN TO CLEAR AFTER 02Z... FIRST AT 
FAY/INT/GSO THEN LAST AT RDU/RWI... WITH DIMINISHING WINDS TO LIGHT 
FROM THE NORTH-NORTHWEST.

LOOKING BEYOND TONIGHT: VFR CONDITIONS WILL HOLD AT LEAST INTO 
MONDAY. A FAST MOVING AND WEAK DISTURBANCE MAY BRING BRIEF MVFR 
CONDITIONS ON MONDAY. VFR WEATHER WILL RETURN FOR MONDAY 
NIGHT/TUESDAY... THEN ANOTHER STRONGER STORM SYSTEM MAY BRING 
IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS AND MORE COLD RAIN FOR TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY. 
-GIH 

&&

.RAH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NONE.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS...HARTFIELD
NEAR TERM...MWS/BADGETT
SHORT TERM...SMITH
LONG TERM...SMITH
AVIATION...HARTFIELD


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