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Moose River, New York, United States
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 Lat: 43.58N, Lon: 75.34W
Wx Zone: NYZ008 ICAO Used: KRME
Area Discussion for County Warning Area BUF:
FXUS61 KBUF 080507
AFDBUF

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
1207 AM EST TUE DEC 8 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
WEAK LOW PRESSURE WILL DRIFT SLOWLY NORTHEAST FROM THE REGION 
OVERNIGHT WITH SNOW SHOWERS BECOMING CONFINED TO AREAS SOUTHEAST OF 
THE LAKES. OUR ATTENTION WILL THEN TURN TO A POWERFUL EARLY WINTER 
STORM SYSTEM THAT WILL IMPACT OUR REGION FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT 
INTO FRIDAY. MIXED PRECIPITATION IN ADVANCE OF THE STORM WILL CHANGE 
TO RAIN WEDNESDAY WITH VERY STRONG WINDS DEVELOPING. THE STRONG 
WINDS WILL THEN BE ACCOMPANIED BY LOWER TEMPERATURES AND WIDESPREAD 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS FROM LATER WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO AT LEAST 
FRIDAY.

&&

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TODAY/...
ISSUED ANOTHER UPDATE AS OF 1151 PM...FOR LAKE ONTARIO BAND THAT IS 
EXPECTED TO DRIFT A BIT FURTHER SOUTH INTO WAYNE AND NORTHERN CAYUGA 
COUNTIES. INCREASED POPS TO LKLY WITH 2 TO 3 INCHES OF ACCUMULATION 
POSSIBLE BY MORNING. ALSO BROUGHT CHC POPS INTO THE MORNING FOR 
EASTERN MONROE COUNTY AS WELL.

EARLIER DISCO FROM EVENING SHIFT... 

ACTIVITY OFF LAKE ERIE HAS DRIFTED SOUTH TO AREAS FROM SOUTHERN ERIE 
COUNTY AND WYOMING COUNTY SOUTHWARD AND SHLD STAY THERE AND THEN 
BECOME MORE SCATTERED LATE. ACCUMULATIONS RANGING FROM 1 TO 3 INCHES 
BUT UP TO 4 INCHES ON THE CHAUTAUQUA RIDGE.

OFF LAKE ONTARIO, ACTIVITY SEEMS TO BE FOCUSING OVER CENTRAL OSWEGO 
COUNTY AS INDICATED IN EARLIER UPDATE. WENT WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES 
ACROSS THAT REGION WITH SLIGHTLY LOWER AMNTS OVER SOUTHERN LEWIS AND 
SOUTHERN JEFFERSON COUNTIES. ELSEWHERE AN INCH OR LESS.
ALSO BROUGHT CHC OF SNOW SHOWERS FURTHER SOUTH INTO WAYNE AND 
NORTHERN CAYUGA COUNTIES OVERNIGHT WITH ACCUMS UP TO AN INCH IN 
SPOTS. NAM12 SEEMS TO BE HANDLING THIS MOVEMENT FURTHER SOUTH QUITE 
WELL. 

ALSO MENTIONED CHC FLURRIES FURTHER TO THE WEST ALONG THE SOUTH 
SHORE OF THE LAKE INTO MONROE AND ORLEANS COUNTIES FOR TUESDAY 
MORNING AS BAND COULD BE ALONG THE SHORE IN THE MRNG HRS WITH CHC 
POPS FROM WAYNE COUNTY EASTWARD TO SOUTHERN JEFFERSON AND LEWIS 
COUNTIES.  

EARLIER DISCO BELOW...

SYNOPTIC SCALE AND MESOSCALE INFLUENCES WILL IMPACT THE AREA TONIGHT 
THROUGH PART OF TUESDAY MORNING. 

THE WEAK SURFACE LOW THAT IS CENTERED NEAR GEORGIAN BAY THIS 
AFTERNOON WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE TO THE EAST AND SLIDE OFF THE SLIDE 
OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST TONIGHT. LIGHT SNOW CONTINUES TO SPREAD 
EAST ACROSS THE CWA AND IS BECOMING A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED ACROSS 
THE SOUTHERN TIER DUE TO THE ADDED LIFT FROM MID LEVEL SHORT THAT IS 
APPROACHING WESTERN NEW YORK. AS THE LOW TRACKS JUST NORTH OF LAKE 
ONTARIO LATER THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EARLY EVENING...THE BOUNDARY 
LAYER WINDS WILL LINE UP MORE FROM THE SOUTHWEST. THIS MAY RESULT IN 
A BRIEF PERIOD OF LAKE ENHANCED SNOW ACROSS ERIE COUNTY...INCLUDING 
THE BUFFALO METRO AREA...BUT ONLY MINOR ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED. 
THE LAKE SNOWS WILL THEN SHIFT TO THE SOUTH...AND IMPACT THE 
SOUTHERN TIER TONIGHT...BUT ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD REMAIN BELOW 
ADVISORY CRITERIA AS THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE DECREASES AFTER 06Z AND 
THE DIRECTIONAL WIND SHEAR INCREASES.  

THE SITUATION EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO WILL BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED 
TONIGHT. A SURFACE TROUGH THAT EXTENDS WEST OF THE DEPARTING SURFACE 
LOW IS FORECAST TO REMAIN JUST NORTH OF LAKE ONTARIO THROUGH A GOOD 
PART OF TONIGHT. THE PRESENCE OF THIS BOUNDARY WILL TEND TO INCREASE 
THE LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR WHICH WILL MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR 
ORGANIZED LAKE SNOW BANDS TO SET UP. HOWEVER...THERE WILL BE 
SUFFICIENT CONVERGENCE IN THE VICINITY OF THE TROUGH...COMBINED WITH 
SOME RESPONSE FROM THE LAKE AS THE FLOW DOES BECOME BETTER ALIGNED 
FROM THE WEST NORTHWEST LATE TONIGHT. BASED ON THESE TRENDS...WILL 
MAINTAIN LIKELY POPS ACROSS MOST OF THE NORTH COUNTRY...WITH ANOTHER 
1 TO 2 INCHES OF SNOW EXPECTED. 

FOR TUESDAY...ANY SNOW THAT LINGERS EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO...SHOULD 
BE ENDING BY 15Z. OTHERWISE...HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING OVER THE STATE 
WILL BRING DRY CONDITIONS TO THE CWA. THERE WILL BE A GRADUAL 
INCREASE IN MID LEVEL CLOUDS DURING THE AFTERNOON AS THE 
INTENSIFYING WINTER STORM APPROACHES FROM THE WEST.

&&

.SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/...
THIS PERIOD OF THE FORECAST WILL BE CHALLENGING AND VERY IMPORTANT 
FOR PUBLIC DECISIONS.

A STRONG SHORTWAVE WILL CROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND MIDWEST 
TUESDAY NIGHT. THE SFC REFLECTION OF THIS SHORTWAVE...IN THE FORM OF 
A POWERFUL EARLY WINTER STORM...WILL MOVE NORTHEAST FROM OKLAHOMA TO 
NEAR CHICAGO. BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THEIR 
SOLUTIONS...WITH A CENTRAL PRESSURE DEEPENING TO ARND 980MB BY 
DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY.

A MOISTURE RICH SOUTHERLY FLOW (60KT LL JET) WILL DEVELOP ACROSS OUR 
WESTERN COUNTIES IN ADVANCE OF THE STORM SYSTEM TUESDAY NIGHT. THE 
DEEPENING MOISTURE FIELD WILL COMBINE WITH SEVERAL SOURCES OF LIFT 
TO GENERATE WIDESPREAD SNOW AS TUESDAY NIGHT PROGRESSES. THE THREE 
MAIN SOURCES OF LIFT WILL INCLUDE ISENTROPIC LIFT FROM THE 
WAA...DIFFLUENT FLOW ALOFT AND A COUPLED H25 150KT JET. 

WIDESPREAD SNOW WILL BREAK OUT ACROSS THE WESTERN COUNTIES BY 
MIDNIGHT WITH THE SNOW GRADUALLY SPREADING NORTH AND EAST ACROSS THE 
NORTH COUNTRY. GFS POINT SOUNDINGS ARE STILL SUGGESTING THAT THE 
PCPN WILL BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW AT THE ONSET FOR ALL SITES. THE 
SNOW MAY MIX WITH SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN OVER MUCH OF THE WRN 
SOUTHERN TIER BY DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY. THE TIMING OF THIS CHANGEOVER 
WILL BE IMPORTANT AS TO HOW MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATES. EARLY ESTIMATES 
FOR SNOWFALL TUESDAY NIGHT WILL GENERALLY BE 2 INCHES OR LESS...BUT 
A SLOWER CHANGEOVER COULD EASILY TRANSLATE INTO ADVISORY CRITERIA 
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS.

THE NEWLY PHASED STORM WILL THEN TRACK FROM CHICAGO TO GEORGIAN BAY 
ON WEDNESDAY WHILE FURTHER DEEPENING TO ABOUT 975MB. AGAIN...THE GFS 
AND ECMWF ARE REMARKABLY SIMILAR IN THEIR SOLUTIONS. THE 975MB CENT 
PRESSURE WILL BE SOME 3 TO 4 STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW NORMAL MID 
DECEMBER VALUES...WHICH IS AN EASY CLUE TO A SIGNIFICANT WEATHER 
EVENT.  IN ANY CASE...THE TRACK OF THIS POWERFUL STORM TO OUR WEST 
WILL RESULT IN STRONG WARM ADVECTION ACROSS ALL OF OUR REGION. THIS 
WILL CHANGE ALL OF THE WINTRY PCPN TO RAIN WEDNESDAY AS H85 TEMPS 
WILL PEAK AT ABOUT +5C.

THE PASSAGE OF A COLD FRONT LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WILL THEN USHER 
THE RETURN OF COLD AIR TO THE REGION...PARTICULARLY THE WRN COUNTIES 
WHERE THE RAIN WILL CHANGE BACK TO SNOW BY EVENING. MORE IMPORTANTLY 
THE SFC WINDS WILL PICK UP WITHIN THE CYCLONIC COLD ADVECTIVE 
PATTERN WITH WINDS INCREASING TO 25 TO 40 MPH WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH 
ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING OF THE WINDS DURING THE COURSE OF WEDNESDAY 
NIGHT.

THE DEEP LOW WILL LIFT NORTHEAST TO WESTERN QUEBEC WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 
THIS WILL PLACE OUR REGION ON THE BACKSIDE OF A TIGHTLY WOUND WINTER 
STORM WITH MUCH COLDER AIR CHARGING INTO OUR AREA ON STRONG WESTERLY 
WINDS. THESE WINDS WILL BE AT LEAST ADVISORY CRITERIA LEVELS WITH 
THE POTENTIAL FOR WARNING CRITERIA TO BE MET. AS MENTIONED IN 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THOUGH...AN IMPORTANT INGREDIENT MISSING FOR A 
CLASSIC HIGH WIND EVENT IS THE STRONG WINDS ALOFT. WINDS WILL ONLY 
AVERAGE 50 KNOTS BETWEEN 3-8K FT...BUT THESE WILL STILL BE STRONG 
ENOUGH TO CAUSE PROBLEMS.

H85 TEMPS WILL DROP TO -10C WEDNESDAY NIGHT...AND THIS WILL SET UP
STEEP LAPSE RATES IN THE LOWEST 8K FT OR SO OF THE BOUNDARY LAYER 
OVER THE LAKES. THIS WILL ALLOW LAKE SNOWS TO DEVELOP EAST OF BOTH 
LAKES...BUT DUE TO THE VERY STRONG WINDS...THE SNOW BANDS WILL NOT 
BE AS CONCENTRATED OR INTENSE AS THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE. THEY WILL 
ALSO EXTEND FURTHER INLAND. WHILE THE BANDS COULD INITIALLY SET UP 
OVER THE BUF AND ART METRO AREAS DURING THE FIRST HALF OF WEDNESDAY 
NIGHT...THE BANDS ARE EXPECTED TO SETTLE TO THE SOUTH AS THE FLOW 
VEERS TO A MORE WESTERLY FETCH.

THE DEEP LOW WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT AWAY FRO THE REGION ON THURSDAY 
AS IT TRACKS ACROSS SOUTHERN QUEBEC. A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL 
REMAIN IN PLACE OVER OUR REGION WITH 3-5MB/3HR ISALLOBARIC PRESSURE 
RISES FORECAST. THIS WILL MAKE THURSDAY A VERY WINDY DAY...AND WITH 
H85 TEMPS FALLING TO -15C...THERE WILL BE WIDESPREAD WIND SWEPT LAKE 
EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS. THE STRONG WINDS WILL GREATLY LIMIT THE 
RESIDENCY TIME FOR THE AIR OVER THE LAKES...SO ACCUMS BOTH WED NIGHT 
AND THURSDAY WILL LIKELY BE LIMITED. EVEN SO...THE VERY STRONG WINDS 
AND WIDESPREAD LAKE SNOW SHOWERS WILL COMBINE TO PRODUCE TIMES OF 
VERY POOR VISIBILITY. IN FACT...BLIZZARD LIKE CONDITIONS MAY BE 
EXPERIENCED AT TIMES.

WHILE SNOWFALL WILL LIKELY BE HELD IN CHECK BY THE STRONG WINDS...
BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SUGGEST A STRONG MULTI-LAKE CONNECTION FROM 
LAKE SUPERIOR AND HURON...ACROSS LAKE ONTARIO. THIS WELL PRIMED BAND 
COULD THUS BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND PERFORM TO A MORE IMPRESSIVE 
LEVEL THAN ITS LAKE ERIE COUNTERPART. THIS WILL PUT OSWEGO COUNTY 
AND THE TUG HILL REGION WITHIN THE CROSS HAIRS FOR WHAT COULD PROVE 
TO BE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS LATER THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT AS H85 
TEMPS CONTINUE TO PLUMMET TO BETWEEN -16 AND -20C.

&&

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY/...
THIS PERIOD WILL START WITH SOME OF THE COLDEST SFC TEMPERATURES FOR 
THE SEASON...WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW CONTINUING DOWNWIND OF THE LAKES. 
STILL WINDY ON FRIDAY UNTIL SFC HIGH BUILDS IN SATURDAY WITH 
DIMINISHING WINDS...AS WELL AS DIMINISHING LAKE EFFECT. TEMPERATURES 
WILL CONTINUE TO RUN BELOW NORMAL INTO THE START OF NEXT WEEK. 

FOR FRIDAY 850 HPA TEMPERATURES DROP TO -16 TO -20C BEFORE THE BROAD 
BASED ARCTIC LIKE TROUGH OVER THE GREAT LAKES SLOWLY LIFTS OUT.
THIS WILL RESULT IN ACCUMULATING SNOWS DOWNWIND OF BOTH LAKES IN 
TRADITIONAL SNOWBELT AREAS. GFS BUFKIT DATA SHOWS SFC WINDS STILL 20 
PLUS KNOTS TO START FRIDAY...BUT AS SFC HIGH FROM NOSES IN FROM THE 
SOUTH WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SLACKEN THROUGH THE DAY.   

THE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT ON SATURDAY WHILE HIGH PRESSURE 
WILL WORK NORTHWARDS FROM THE OHIO VALLEY. THIS WILL HELP TO LOWER 
THE EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL...AT LEAST ON LAKE ERIE...SO THE LAKE SNOWS 
SHOULD START TO DIMINISH IN INTENSITY AND COVERAGE. TEMPS WILL 
REMAIN WELL BELOW NORMAL THOUGH....WITH HIGHS IN MOST AREAS STAYING 
BELOW FREEZING. 

A MID LEVEL RIDGE WILL THEN BUILD ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES 
FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY. THIS WILL FURTHER DIMINISH THE LAKE SNOW 
SHOWERS WITH JUST FLURRIES EXPECTED FOR THE REGION BY SUNDAY 
AFTERNOON.

12Z ECMWF AND 12Z GFS BRING ANOTHER TROUGH WITH TRAILING COLDER AIR 
ACROSS THE REGION LATER SUNDAY AND INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL 
AGAIN INCREASE THE CHANCES FOR SNOW...FIRST NEAR METRO BUFFALO AND 
METRO WATERTOWN...BEFORE ANY LAKE EFFECT SNOW SLIDES SOUTHWARD. FOR 
NOW WILL GO WITH LOW POPS UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO NEXT WEEKEND.

&&

.AVIATION /05Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/...
BUF/IAG/ROC...EXPECT GENERALLY VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH TUESDAY
EVENING. THE ONLY CONCERN IS LOW MOISTURE SHOWN BY THE NAM BUFKIT
     WHICH IS NOW SHOWING UP ON THE IR SATELLITE IN PARTS OF
SOUTHERN ONTARIO. SINCE THIS IS OFTEN OVERDONE...AND NOT SHOWN BY
ALL MODELS...HEDGE BACK ON THIS CONSIDERABLY...ONLY CARRYING A SCT
DECK AT MOST SITES. OTHERWISE...PRECIP MOVES IN TUESDAY
EVENING...WITH GENERALLY A GOOD HANDLE ON TIMING. GENERALLY EXPECT
CONDITIONS TO QUICKLY LOWER TO MVFR...THEN IFR IN SNOW.

JHW...LAKE EFFECT -SN SHOULD GRADUALLY TAPER OFF...HOWEVER MVFR
CIGS LIKELY TO LINGER INTO TUESDAY MORNING. EXPECT SNOW TO MOVE IN
TUESDAY EVENING...BUT SHOULD QUICKLY MIX WITH SLEET. TIMING FAIRLY
SOLID...WITH A QUICK DROP TO IFR CONDITIONS.

AT ART...RADAR SUPPORTS THAT LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL REMAIN
SOUTH...WITH VFR CONDITIONS LIKELY THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING.

OUTLOOK...
TUESDAY NIGHT...CONDITIONS LOWERING TO MVFR/IFR IN SNOW AND MIXED
PRECIP. LLWS LIKELY LATE. 
WEDNESDAY...MVFR/IFR WITH RAIN/SNOW. LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR LIKELY
EARLY. 
THURSDAY...MVFR/IFR SNOW SHOWERS. STRONG SURFACE WINDS LIKELY.
FRIDAY...VFR/MVFR IN SNOW SHOWERS.

&&

.MARINE...
A WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL THEN BE FOUND OVER LAKES ERIE AND 
ONTARIO TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE WILL DRIFT ACROSS 
THE REGION. THESE TRANQUIL CONDITIONS WILL QUICKLY GIVE WAY TO VERY 
STRONG WINDS LATER TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY NIGHT AS 
A POWERFUL EARLY WINTER STORM WILL LIFT ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES 
REGION.

WINDS IN THE WAKE OF THE DEEP STORM SYSTEM WILL REACH AT LEAST HIGH 
END GALES WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY...WITH THE LIKELIHOOD OF 
STORM FORCE GUSTS. A GALE WATCH WILL BE ISSUED FOR LAKE ERIE 
STARTING WEDNESDAY AND FOR LAKE ONTARIO STARTING WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

&&

.BUF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NY...NONE.
MARINE...GALE WATCH FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY EVENING FOR 
         LOZ062>065.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS...RSH/SAGE
NEAR TERM...JJP/TJP
SHORT TERM...RSH/SAGE
LONG TERM...RSH/THOMAS
AVIATION...APFFEL
MARINE...RSH/SAGE


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