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Jordan Valley, Oregon, United States (97910)
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 Lat: 42.98N, Lon: 117.05W
Wx Zone: ORZ063 ICAO Used: KEUL
Area Discussion for County Warning Area BOI:
FXUS65 KBOI 141655
AFDBOI

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BOISE ID
955 AM MST MON DEC 14 2009

.DISCUSSION...HAVE CANCELLED DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR THE TREASURE 
VALLEY. VSBY CURRENTLY ALL ABOVE ONE MILE. TEMPERATURE FORECAST 
DIFFICULT AGAIN TODAY WITH EXTENSIVE STRATUS DECK OVER THE AREA. 
FOCUS NOW TURNS TO LARGE STORM INBOUND TO THE WEST COAST AT THIS 
TIME. STORM TARGETING AREAS NORTH OF SAN FRANCISCO AND THEN OUR 
AREA. WINTER STORM WATCHES WILL MOST LIKELY BE UPGRADED ON AFTERNOON 
PACKAGE AND OTHERS ADDED.  NO UPDATES AT THIS TIME.  

&&

.AVIATION...IFR FOG NEAR KEUL AND KONO IS EXPECTED TO DISSIPATE BY 
18Z THIS MORNING. ELSEWHERE...PREDOMINANTLY VFR THROUGH 00Z WITH 
SCT-BKN CLOUD DECKS BETWEEN 8K AND 11K FT MSL. LIGHT SURFACE WINDS 
WITH MODERATE WESTERLY WINDS ALOFT.

TONIGHT...A POTENT WINTER STORM WILL MOVE INTO THE FORECAST AREA 
FROM THE NORTHWEST. EXPECT WIDESPREAD IFR IN SNOW AND GUSTY SE-SW 
SURFACE WINDS AFTER 04Z /9 PM MST/ TONIGHT. 
  
&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...TODAY THROUGH TUESDAY...VERY STRONG AND WET 
SYSTEM HEADED OUR WAY FOR LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY NIGHT. MAIN 
PROBLEM WITH THIS WILL BE DECIDING WHEN THE VALLEYS WILL TRANSITION 
FROM SNOW TO RAIN. WITH THE COLD AIR STILL AROUND FROM THE RECENT 
ARCTIC AIRMASS...THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN 
LATE MONDAY NIGHT AND EARLY TUESDAY AS ALL SNOW. HOWEVER...THE WARM 
AIR ADVECTION WITH THIS SYSTEM IS QUITE STRONG...AND THE LOWER 
ELEVATIONS WILL TURN FROM SNOW TO A MIX TO ALL RAIN DURING THE DAY 
TUESDAY. EXACTLY WHEN AND WHERE WILL DETERMINE HOW DEEP THE SNOW 
GETS AND WHAT AREAS NEED TO BE IN A WINTER WEATHER WATCH..OR OTHER 
HEADLINE. FOR NOW...HAVE ADDED ZONE 33 TO THE WATCH THAT WAS ISSUED 
DURING THE DAY SUNDAY. THIS ZONE APPEARS SET TO GET BETWEEN 2 AND 6 
INCHES OF SNOW TUESDAY BEFORE TURNING TO A SLOSHY MESS TUESDAY 
NIGHT. OTHERWISE HAVE LEFT THE WATCH ALONE SO THE DAYSHIFT CAN 
ASSESS THE LATEST GUIDANCE BEFORE MAKING FINAL DECISIONS LATER 
TODAY. SOME OF THE LOWER ELEVATIONS MAY NEED A SHORT ADVISORY TO 
DESCRIBE THE MODERATE SNOWFALL EXPECTED EARLY TUESDAY. FOR TEMPS 
TODAY TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE LOCATIONS OF THE CURRENT SNOW PACK IN 
LOWERING GUIDANCE TOWARD SOMETHING HOPEFULLY MORE REALISTIC. 
HOWEVER...WINDS MAY MIX IN WARMER AIR AND RUIN THIS EFFORT...BUT 
THIS IS NOT THE FAVORED SOLUTION. AS THE NEXT SYSTEM APPROACHES 
TONIGHT...SE WINDS WILL INCREASE IN THE SNAKE RIVER VALLEY AND HELP 
KEEP TEMPS FROM DROPPING TOO FAR...EVEN WITH THE SNOW ON THE GROUND. 
FOR TUESDAY...TEMPS WILL WARM INTO THE EVENING HOURS AS THE 
PREVIOUSLY REFERENCES WARM AIR ADVECTION CONTINUES...MEANING THE 
SO-CALLED DAYTIME MAX MAY OCCUR TOWARD 8 PM LOCAL TIME. ONE LAST 
NOTE...THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM PASSED BY TO OUR SOUTH AND WE DID NOT END 
UP GETTING AS MUCH PRECIPITATION THROUGHOUT OUR AREA AS WE HAD 
EXPECTED. THIS SYSTEM IS HEADED RIGHT FOR US...AND WE WILL GET 
NOTICEABLY MORE PRECIPITATION THIS TIME. THE MAIN QUESTION FOR THE 
POPULATED VALLEYS WILL BE THE TIMING OF TRANSITION FROM SNOW TO RAIN.

LONG TERM...TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...MOIST SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL 
CONTINUE TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. FORECAST CHALLENGE REMAINS TO 
BE PRECIPITATION CHANGING OVER TO RAIN EVENT IN LOWER ELEVATIONS. 
MODELS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWN WARM ADVECTION PATTERN THE PAST 
SEVERAL RUNS FOR VALLEY RAIN OVERNIGHT TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. FLOW 
WILL TRANSITION TO MORE OF A ZONAL PATTERN WITH ANOTHER IMPULSE TO 
EXTEND PRECIP CHANCES MAINLY ACROSS NORTHERN ZONES THROUGH LATE 
THURSDAY. BEYOND THAT AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL AMPLIFY OVER THE 
PACIFIC NORTHWEST BEGINNING THURSDAY NIGHT FOR DRIER CONDITIONS THAT 
SUGGEST A RETURN TO INVERTED TEMPERATURES AND ASSOCIATED AVIATION 
FORECAST CHALLENGES THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

&&

.BOI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
ID...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON 
     FOR IDZ033.
     WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING    
     FOR IDZ011-IDZ013-IDZ029.
OR...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY            
     AFTERNOON FOR ORZ062.
&&

$$

WEATHER.GOV/BOISE

DISCUSSION...GS
PREV DISCUSSION...SP
LONG TERM....CD
AVIATION.....MT


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