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Haviland, Kansas, United States (67059)
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 Lat: 37.62N, Lon: 99.11W
Wx Zone: KSZ080 ICAO Used: KPTT
Area Discussion for County Warning Area DDC:
FXUS63 KDDC 102155
AFDDDC

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS
355 PM CST THU DEC 10 2009

.DISCUSSION...

DAYS 1-2...

A BROAD SYNOPTIC MID LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW IS WELL ESTABLISHED ACROSS 
THE CONUS TODAY, MARKED BY TREMENDOUSLY DEEP COLD AIR ACROSS THE 
NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. 
A DEEP TROPOSPHERIC JET ALSO EXTENDED FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND 
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THROUGH THE EAST COAST. AN 850 MB LEVEL 
TEMPERATURE ISOTHERM OF AROUND -10 DEGREES COINCIDED ROUGHLY WITH 
THE SOUTHERN EXTENT OF THE SNOW PACK NEAR THE KANSAS OKLAHOMA LINE 
THIS MORNING.

FORECAST CHALLENGES ACROSS THE NEXT 60 OR SO HOURS WILL REVOLVE 
AROUND TEMPERATURES, HOW MUCH SNOW MIGHT MELT AND THEN RESULTING 
TEMPERATURES DUE TO WARM AIR ADVECTION AND CLOUD COVER FROM AN 
APPROACHING MID TROPOSPHERIC WAVE AROUND THE SATURDAY TIMEFRAME.  

THE CYCLONIC FLOW PATTERN IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING A TRANSITION TO 
ZONAL FLOW AS SIGNIFICANT MID LEVEL HEIGHT RISES ARE ONGOING FROM 
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS, AND MOSTLY 
RESPONSIBLE FOR A SIGNIFICANT JUMP IN TEMPERATURES TO THE 20S EVEN 
ACROSS THE DEEP SNOW AREA ALONG THE INTERSTATE 70 CORRIDOR THIS 
AFTERNOON.  TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE NOT AS COLD AS THIS 
MORNING, SINCE HIGHER SURFACE PRESSURE IS SHIFTING EASTWARD AND 
INCREASED WINDS FROM THE SOUTH-SOUTHEAST SHOULD BE DEVELOPING. A 
LITTLE HIGH THIN CIRRUS MAY ALSO BE PART OF THE EQUATION LIMITING 
RADIATIONAL COOLING A BIT DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS, BUT CLEARING 
WOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW TOWARD 9-12Z TIMEFRAME. AS WINDS TURN SOUTHERLY 
TONIGHT, SOME WARMER/HIGHER THETA-E AIR WILL BE PULLED NORTH ACROSS 
THE SURFACE COLD AIR ESPECIALLY IN THE WESTERN COUNTIES, AND 
DEWPOINT DEPRESSIONS WILL BE QUITE LOW. GIVEN THIS, THE POTENTIAL 
EXISTS FOR PATCHY OR AREAS OF LIGHT FOG TO DEVELOP IN OUR WESTERN 
SECTIONS AND ALTHOUGH THE CONFIDENCE IS NOT GREAT, IT MAY BE 
MENTIONED IN THE ZONE FORECASTS TONIGHT.  

SNOW MELTING SHOULD ACCELERATE ON FRIDAY AS TEMPERATURES WARM CLOSER 
TO THE 30 DEGREE MARK ACROSS FARTHER NORTH PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST 
AREA, BUT MUCH OF THE INCREASED NEAR SURFACE ENERGY WILL BE GOING 
INTO SNOW MELT ESPECIALLY ACROSS OUR NORTHEAST HALF FORECAST AREA. A 
PREFRONTAL TROUGH WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS ON SATURDAY, 
AND BY SATURDAY NIGHT, A SITUATION COULD DEVELOP WHERE INCREASING 
WARM ADVECTION BEGINS IN OUR SOUTHEAST SECTIONS WHILE MELTED SNOW 
BEGINS REFREEZING IN THE NORTH, AND SOME FOG OR EVEN FREEZING FOG 
DEVELOPS. 

MORE SIGNIFICANT MELTING SHOULD OCCUR SATURDAY OF REMAINING SNOW IN 
THE HODGEMAN-EDWARDS COUNTIES NORTH TO INTERSTATE 70 REGION, IN 
ADVANCE OF A MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE THAT IS AGREED UPON BY ALL THE 
MODELS, WHICH GENERALLY COINCIDES WITH A PREFRONTAL SURFACE TROUGH 
FOR THE WEEKEND. HAVE LEFT THE POTENTIAL FOR A LITTLE LIGHT DRIZZLE 
IN THE FAR EAST EARLY SATURDAY AS IMPRESSIVE LIFT SHOULD BE 
SOMEWHERE ACROSS CENTRAL OR EASTERN KANSAS.     
 

RUSSELL

DAYS 3-7...

THE MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM IS THE EXTENT OF THE WARMUP SUNDAY AND THE 
TIMING AND STRENGTH OF THE SHALLOW COLD SURGE SUNDAY NIGHT AND 
MONDAY.

THE ECMWF HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY SHOWING A STRONG DOWNSLOPE
SURGE SUNDAY FROM DDC SOUTH TO THE BORDER. WITH SNOW COVER GONE IN
OUR SOUTHERN COUNTIES, TEMPS SHOULD EASILY RISE INTO THE 50S AND EVEN
60S GIVEN THAT THE WINDS WILL BE BLOWING FROM A REGION THAT WILL 
HAVE NO SNOW COVER. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IF WE GET DEEP VERTICAL 
MIXING LIKE I EXPECT. THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING WARM WILL BE ON THE 
LOWER TERRAIN OF CLARK AND COMANCHE COUNTIES, BUT EVEN DDC SHOULD
REACH WELL INTO THE 50S AND MAYBE WARMER. SOMETIMES A WEAK TROUGH CAN
DEVELOP NEAR THE OKLAHOMA BORDER THAT CAN KEEP THE WARMEST AIR TO OUR
SOUTH. 

SHALLOW COLD SURGES TYPICALLY ARRIVE FASTER THAN INDICATED IN THE 
MODELS. THE 12Z ECMWF IS INDEED FASTER THAN THE 00Z RUN WITH THE 
COLD SURGE BY SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THE SOURCE REGION OF THIS SURGE IS 
NORTHERN CANADA WHERE TEMPS ARE -25F CURRENTLY. THE GLOBAL MODELS 
USUALLY CANNOT RESOLVE THE STRENGTH OF THE LOW LEVEL COLD SURGE WITH 
THESE AIRMASSES. THIS LAST ARCTIC SURGE WAS DEEP(AT LEAST IN WESTERN 
KANSAS) AND THE MODELS DID A DECENT JOB AT MAXES AND MINS. BUT THIS 
COLD SURGE WILL INITIALLY BE VERY SHALLOW, SO I SUSPECT THE MODELS 
WILL BE TOO WARM WITH THIS ONE. ANY REMAINING SNOW COVER FROM 
CENTRAL KS NORTHWARD COULD PREVENT THE ARCTIC AIR FROM MODIFYING AS 
FAST AS IT NORMALLY DOES. I LOWERED MAXES FOR MONDAY INTO THE 20S 
FROM DDC NORTHEAST. I HAVE A FEELING THAT MONDAY WILL BE COLDER THAN 
THIS. TEMPS MAY GET DOWN TO ZERO MONDAY MORNING WITH HIGHS IN THE 
TEENS FROM DDC TO HAYS. SURFACE PRESSURES ARE STILL PROGGED TO BE 
FAIRLY HIGH ON TUESDAY AS A REINFORCING ARCTIC HIGH SURGES 
SOUTHWARD. HIGHS WERE ADJUSTED DOWN FOR TUESDAY SEVERAL DEGREES 
ESPECIALLY FROM GCK EASTWARD. VERTICAL MIXING SHOULD BE AT A MINIMUM 
(SHALLOW BOUNDARY LAYER) WHICH WILL ALSO KEEP TEMPS FROM RISING A 
LOT.

TEMPERATURES WILL MODERATE AFTER TUESDAY AS A FAIRLY ZONAL PATTERN 
DEVELOPS. HIGHS COULD REACH THE 50S BY THURSDAY. NO SIGNIFICANT 
PRECIP IS EXPECTED THROUGH DAY 10.

&&

AVIATION...

VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD.

FINCH

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
DDC  10  32  22  39 /   0   0   0   0 
GCK   5  29  19  37 /   0   0   0   0 
EHA  15  37  17  49 /   0   0   0   0 
LBL  13  37  21  47 /   0   0   0   0 
HYS   0  28  16  31 /   0   0   0  10 
P28  15  41  22  44 /   0   0   0  20 

&&

.DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NONE.
&&

$$

FN33/26


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