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Glennie, Michigan, United States (48737)
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 Lat: 44.57N, Lon: 83.72W
Wx Zone: MIZ030 ICAO Used: KOSC
Area Discussion for County Warning Area APX:
FXUS63 KAPX 021624
AFDAPX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI
1124 AM EST WED DEC 2 2009

.SYNOPSIS.../ISSUED AT 418 AM/

WEAK LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION TODAY...BRINGING SOME 
CLOUD COVER TO THE REGION...AND POSSIBLY SOME DRIZZLE EARLY ON. BUT 
OVERALL...EXPECT ANOTHER QUIET WEATHER DAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES IN 
THE 40S. SNOW SHOWERS WILL BECOME DOMINATE OVER THE NORTHERN LAKES 
THURSDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND...A STRONG STORM SYSTEM LIFTS FROM THE 
GULF INTO NEW ENGLAND...PULLING SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER AIR INTO THE 
REGION. 

ADAM

&&

.SHORT TERM.../ISSUED AT 1124 AM/...THIS AFTERNOON

THE COLD FRONT IS PUSHING THROUGH THE E UPPER AND NW LOWER. THIS
HAS BEEN PRODUCING A BRIEF PERIOD OF FOG. WINDS GENERALLY HAVE
BEEN LOWER THAN EXPECTED WITH THE SYSTEM COMING THROUGH, SO HAVE
AT THIS POINT DROPPED THE SCA OVER N LAKE MICHIGAN. OTHERWISE, THE
TEMPERATURES LOOK ON TRACK. CLOUDS ARE A LITTLE THICKER THAN
EXPECTED, SO HAVE BEEFED UP THE CLOUDS FOR THE AFTERNOON. THE MAIN
QUESTION WILL BE WHAT WE GET WITH THE SYSTEM TONIGHT. 

JSL

&&

.LONG TERM.../ISSUED AT 418 AM/...TONIGHT AND BEYOND

TONIGHT...DESPITE BETTER UPPER AIR SAMPLING OF SOUTHERN WAVE...STILL 
SOME MODEL DISCREPANCIES...BOTH WITH REGARDS TO EXACT TRACK AND 
TIMING. COMPARING WATER VAPOR/RADAR IMAGERY AND UPPER AIR SOUNDINGS 
WITH MODEL FIRST GUESS FIELDS...CAN FIND NO GLARING INITIALIZATION 
ERRORS. THUS...FORECAST WILL REMAIN SLANTED TOWARD ROCK-STEADY 
ECMWF SOLUTION...WHICH HAS HELD FIRM IN DEPICTING LOW PRESSURE 
MOVING JUST WEST OF THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAIN CHAIN...WITH NORTHWEST 
EXTENT OF TROWEL/DEFORMATION DRIVEN PRECIPITATION SHIELD ARCHING 
BACK INTO NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN (HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION SHOULD 
REMAIN OFF TO OUR SOUTHEAST). STILL...LIKE PREVIOUS FORECASTERS GRID 
MANIPULATIONS...ACCOUNTING FOR TYPICAL FURTHER NORTHWEST PROPAGATION TO 
PRECIPITATION SHIELD. THUS...HAVE ESSENTIALLY LEFT INHERITED GRIDS 
ALONE...FEATURING LIKELY/CATEGORICAL WORDING FAR SOUTHEAST... 
TAPERING POPS OFF TO THE NORTHWEST. THERMAL FIELDS CONTINUE TO 
SUPPORT EVENING RAIN/SNOW MIXTURE ACROSS THE NORTHWEST...WITH 
PREDOMINATELY ALL RAIN SOUTHEAST OF A LINE EXTENDING FROM HOUGHTON 
LAKE TO PRESQUE ISLE. LATE NIGHT STRENGTHENING CAA ON INCREASINGLY 
GUSTY NORTH WINDS SHOULD ALLOW PRECIPITATION TO TRANSITION OVER TO 
ALL SNOW. HOWEVER...AMOUNTS SHOULD REMAIN MINIMAL (AROUND AN INCH OR 
LESS EAST OF I-75) GIVEN COMBINATION OF LOW SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS 
(10 TO 1 OR LESS) AND LIGHT PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS.   

THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT...WHAT'S LEFT OF SYNOPTIC DRIVEN SNOW 
SHIELD WILL PULL OFF TO THE NORTHEAST DURING THE MORNING 
THURSDAY...ALLOWING LAKE PROCESSES TO TAKE CENTER STAGE. WHILE 
INSTABILITY LEVELS INCREASE TO MODERATE LEVELS BY AFTERNOON AS DELTA 
T/S PUSH THE UPPER TEENS...STEADILY BACKING WIND FIELD FROM NORTH TO 
NORTHWEST...SUB 800MB INVERSION LEVELS...INITIAL LACK OF GOOD 
SYNOPTIC SCALE MOISTURE OVER THE WESTERN LAKES...AND TYPICAL EARLY 
SEASON DIURNAL DISRUPTION SHOULD KEEP LAKE INDUCED SNOW SHOWER 
INTENSITY AND ORGANIZATION IN CHECK. THAT BEGINS TO CHANGE THURSDAY 
NIGHT AS MOISTURE AND INVERSION LEVELS INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY 
(EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS PER BUFKIT DATA PUSH 15KFT BY MORNING)...SENDING 
LAKE INDUCED CAPE TO NEAR 700MB. STILL COME CAVEATS FOR SIGNIFICANT 
ACCUMULATION...HOWEVER...SPECIFICALLY MAINTENANCE OF STEADILY 
BACKING WIND FIELDS TO A WEST DIRECTION BY FRIDAY MORNING...ALLOWING 
ANY GOOD BANDING STRUCTURES TO BE TRANSIENT. FOR THIS REASON...DO 
NOT FORESEE ANY WARNING TYPE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS...BUT 2 TO 5 INCHES 
NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION...ESPECIALLY IN FAVORED WEST NORTHWEST TO 
WEST FLOW AREAS OF NORTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN AND NEAR WHITEFISH POINT 
IN EASTERN UPPER.

FRIDAY AND BEYOND...LAKE EFFECT CONCERNS REMAIN FRONT AND CENTER 
THROUGH AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND. PARAMETERS REMAIN RATHER 
IDEAL THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES RANGING 
FROM -12C TO -15C (CORRESPONDING DELTA T/S IN THE HIGH TEENS TO NEAR 
20)...DEEP MOISTURE...AND LAKE INDUCED EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS AROUND 
15KFT. AND...UNLIKE THURSDAY NIGHT...FLOW LOOKS TO STABILIZE TO A 
MORE WSW TO SW DIRECTION...REALLY TARGETING THE TIP OF THE MITT AND 
SOUTHEAST UPPER MICHIGAN. TOO EARLY FOR ANY TYPE OF HEADLINES...BUT 
LIKELIHOOD INCREASING THAT ONE WILL BE NEEDED IN SUBSEQUENT FORECAST 
SHIFTS. WILL CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS POTENTIAL IN EARLY MORNING 
RENDITION OF THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. LAKE MORPHOLOGY 
QUESTIONS INCREASE LATER IN THE WEEKEND AS EXACT WIND FLOW 
DIRECTIONS REMAIN UNCERTAIN. STILL...GENERAL THEME OF LAKE EFFECT 
SNOW SHOWERS IMPACTING NORTHWEST LOWER AND EASTERN UPPER SNOWBELTS 
REMAINS UNCHANGED...WITH NO CHANGE FORTHCOMING TO INHERITED GRIDS 
DURING THIS TIME.
 
MSB

&&

.MARINE.../ISSUED AT 1124 AM/

THE COLD FRONT IS PUSHING THROUGH THE E UPPER AND NW LOWER. THIS
HAS BEEN PRODUCING A BRIEF PERIOD OF FOG. WINDS GENERALLY HAVE
BEEN LOWER THAN EXPECTED WITH THE SYSTEM COMING THROUGH, SO HAVE
AT THIS POINT DROPPED THE SCA OVER N LAKE MICHIGAN. 

JSL

&&

.AVIATION.../ISSUED AT 650 AM/...VALID FOR 12Z TAFS

TOP-DOWN SATURATION WILL LEAD TO GRADUALLY THICKENING 
HIGH TO MID LEVEL CLOUD DECK TODAY. WILL HAVE TO CLOSELY WATCH FOR 
SOME MORNING STRATUS FORMATION NEAR KPLN...AND POSSIBLY KTVC...AS 
WEAKENING COLD FRONT APPROACHES. STRONG STORM SYSTEM PASSING 
SOUTHEAST OF THE AREA TONIGHT WILL CONTINUE TO LOWER THE CLOUD DECK 
TO MVFR TERRITORY. VIS RESTRICTING RAIN AND MIST LATE THIS EVENING 
AT KAPN WILL TRANSITION TO SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT. NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF 
THIS WILL AFFECT KTVC AND KPLN. WILL LOWER CIGS TO MVFR CATEGORY... 
BUT KEEP PRECIPITATION OUT OF THE TAFS AT THIS TIME. WINDS TO 
INCREASE OUT OF THE NORTH TONIGHT...OCCASIONALLY GUSTY.

MSB

&&

.APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LM...NONE.
LH...NONE.
LS...NONE.

&&

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