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Forest City, Florida, United States
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 Lat: 28.66N, Lon: 81.45W
Wx Zone: FLZ046 ICAO Used: KORL
Area Discussion for County Warning Area MLB:
FXUS62 KMLB 070742
AFDMLB

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
242 AM EST MON DEC 7 2009

.DISCUSSION...

TODAY AND TONIGHT...RUC/RTMA SURFACE ANALYZES AND LATEST BUOY OBS
STILL INDICATING A WEAK LOW OVER SOUTHEAST FLORIDA AND THE FLORIDA
STRAIT BETWEEN THE MAINLAND AND GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND. MIAMI AND
WEST PALM BEACH RADARS WERE DETECTING SHOWERS IN THE STRAIT FROM
WEST PALM SOUTH. RUC CARRIES THIS FEATURE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON
WHILE THE GFS IS HAVING A HARDER TIME RESOLVING THE FEATURE BUT
DOES PLACE LOWS IN FLORIDA BAY AND EAST IN THE NORTHERN.CENTRAL
BAHAMA ISLANDS. THE WEAK LOWS SUPPORTED BY VORT MAXES MOVING
QUICKLY WEST TO EAST IN THE PROGRESSIVE MID/UPPER LEVEL FLOW. HIGH
PRESSURE CENTERED OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES CONTINUES TO EAST
INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC AND KEEPS CENTRAL FLORIDA IN AN
ONSHORE... EAST TO SOUTHEAST...FLOW TODAY AND TONIGHT. MAIN IMPACT
OF THE LOW WILL BE TO TIGHTEN THE PRESSURE GRADIENT...INCREASE
WINDS A FEW KNOTS ABOVE GUIDANCE AND ENHANCE MOISTURE CONVERGENCE
OVER THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE MARINE AND PUBLIC FORECAST
ZONES. CARRYING 20 POP FOR THE COASTAL COUNTIES AS THE MOISTURE
CONVERGENCE LOOKS TO BE ENOUGH FOR ISOLATED SHOWERS ANYTIME TO
COME OFF THE ATLANTIC. IN SPOTS WERE CIRRUS IS NOT BLOCKING LOWER
CLOUD LAYERS MARINE LAYER STRATOCU CAN BE SEEN MOVING EAST TO WEST
ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THE HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE MID ATLANTIC
STATES. FOR TONIGHT WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO GO ABOVE MAV SINGLE
DIGIT POP GIVEN THE DEEPENING ONSHORE FLOW HOWEVER...1000-700MB
WINDS LOOK JUST TOO LIGHT FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT OVERNIGHT COASTAL
CONVERGENCE SHOWERS TO FORM.

TUES...TWO SFC LOWS LIFT INTO THE MIDWEST AND DEEP SOUTH OUT OF THE 
CENTRAL PLAINS AND WESTERN GULF BY LATE TUESDAY...PUTTING THE FL 
PENINSULA INTO THE WARM SECTOR AS A WARM FRONT PASSES WELL TO OUR 
NORTH AND WEST. SOUTH-SOUTHEAST FLOW WILL BRING DECENT WARM AIR 
ADVECTION AND MOISTURE INTO THE AREA...WITH AFTERNOON HIGHS CLIMBING 
INTO THE LOW 80S AND DEWPOINTS INTO THE UPPER 60S/NEAR 70. KEPT A 
SLIGHT CHANCE FOR LATE AFTN POPS RESERVED NORTH OF THE I-4 CORRIDOR 
CLOSER TO THE WARM FRONT OVER THE DEEP SOUTH. 

WED-FRI...STRONG MID LATITUDE SFC LOW MOVES EAST FROM THE MIDWEST ON 
WEDNESDAY WITH THE MAIN SYSTEM OVER THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND A 
SECONDARY LOW FORMING OFF THE CAROLINAS. THE POLAR AND SUBTROPICAL  
JETS ARE EXPECTED TO BE PHASED ACROSS THE MID CONTINENT AT THIS 
TIME...AS 500 MB FLOW REMAINS RELATIVELY ZONAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WITH THE MAIN SFC LOW WELL OFFSHORE THE CANADIAN MARITIMES BY THURS 
MORNING...AND LITTLE UPPER DYNAMICS...THE COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH 
THE LOW WILL LIMP ACROSS THE PENINSULA WED AFTN INTO THURS NIGHT. 
FOR NOW...CAPPED POPS AROUND 30% FOR THAT TIME FRAME AS PINPOINTING 
AN EXACT PERIOD FOR THE BEST RAIN CHANCES IS STILL A LITTLE 
UNCERTAIN. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN WARM AND MUGGY INTO WEDNESDAY AS 
THE REGION REMAINS IN ROBUST S-SW FLOW. 

THE 07/00Z ECMWF IS MORE ROBUST WITH THE SFC LOW BUILDING INTO THE 
SOUTHEAST ON FRIDAY...WHICH IN TURN PUSHES THE SFC FRONT FAR ENOUGH 
SOUTH TO CLEAR CENTRAL FLORIDA THURS NIGHT. THE ECMWF IS ALSO ABOUT 
12 HORUS SLOWER WITH THE NEXT SHORTWAVE SWINGING THROUGH THE 
SOUTHERN TIER AS THE FLOW SPLITS AND THE SOUTHERN JET BECOME MORE 
ACTIVE. THIS RESULTS IN TIMING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF 
IN HOW QUICKLY THE NEXT SFC LOW LIFTS OUT OF THE WESTERN GULF INTO 
THE SOUTHEAST. HAVE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE MOMENT AND 
INTRODUCED A SLIGHT CHANCE OF POPS FOR FRI AND FRI NIGHT AS THE AREA 
IS PLACED ONCE AGAIN INTO THE WARM SECTOR OF AN APPROACHING SYSTEM. 

SAT-SUN...THE TIMING OF MID LEVEL INDIVIDUAL DISTURBANCES IN THE 
SOUTHERN STREAM INTO NEXT WEEKEND ARE EVEN HARDER TO PIN 
DOWN...RESULTING IN NOTABLE MODEL DIFFERENCES IN THE DEVELOPMENT 
AND POSITION OF SFC LOWS. THE TAKE AWAY STORY WILL BE THAT THE 
WEATHER WILL REMAIN ACTIVE INTO THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEKEND. 

&&

.AVIATION...07/00Z SOUNDINGS SHOWING SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 KNOTS OR 
MORE FROM AROUND 4-5000 FEET AND ABOVE WHILE BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS 
WERE SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST 10 KNOTS OR LESS. THIS IS USUALLY A GOOD SET 
UP FOR STRATUS OR STRATOCU AND THE MAIN QUESTION OVERNIGHT IS HOW 
LOW THE CEILINGS WILL GO. THE MODELS SHOW ONSHORE FLOW IN THE 
BOUNDARY LAYER WITH SOUTH/SOUTHWEST FLOW ABOVE...SO THE STRATOCU 
MIGHT NOT DIMINISH DURING THE OVERNIGHT. I ESSENTIALLY MAINTAINED 
THE PREVIOUS SET OF TAFS SHOWING IFR CEILINGS FOR THE NORTH. ANY 
BREAK IN THE STRATOCU COULD LEAD TO IFR VISIBILITIES TOO.

&&

.MARINE...

TODAY AND TONIGHT...WEAK CIRCULATION OVER SOUTHEAST FLORIDA AND
NORTHWESTERN BAHAMA ISLANDS TIGHTENING GRADIENT BETWEEN IT AND
HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE MID ATLANTIC JUST ENOUGH FOR WINDS TO BE A
FEW KNOTS ABOVE GUIDANCE...10 TO 15/AROUND 15 KNOTS. SHOWERS
ANYTIME IN THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONVERGENCE.

TUE-WED...WINDS WILL INCREASE FROM THE SE TUE AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES 
OFFSHORE EASTERN SEABOARD. WINDS SHIFT BACK TO THE SOUTHWEST 
WEDNESDAY AS CTRL FL WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR OF LOW PRESSURE 
SYSTEM MOVING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST STATES. DEPENDING ON THE EXACT 
TRACK OF THE LOW...COULD SEE AN INCREASE TO 15-20 KTS...ESPECIALLY 
OFFSHORE AS LOW TRACKS NE. THERE WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SHOWERS WITH 
THE FRONTAL PASSAGE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OVER THE WATERS WED AND WED 
EVE. SEAS 2-4FT NEARSHORE/3-5FT OFFSHORE. 

THURS-SAT...COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL BRING GUSTY NW-NE WINDS THURS 
AFTERNOON INTO EARLY FRIDAY. WINDS QUICKLY FLOP AROUND TO THE EAST 
AND EVENTUALLY TO THE SOUTH-SOUTHEAST BY SATURDAY AS ANOTHER SYSTEM 
PULLS NE OUT OF THE WESTERN GULF INTO THE DEEP SOUTH AND THE FL 
PENINSULA IS BACK IN THE WARM SECTOR. SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES IN THE 
TIMING OF THE SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT...SO NOT AS CONFIDENT ON THE 
TIMING OF THE WINDS COMING AROUND TO THE S-SW BY SAT EVE. SEAS 2-4FT 
NEARSHORE/3-5FT OFFSHORE...WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF LOCALLY HIGHER 
SEAS IN THE GULF STREAM LATE THURS AND FRI AS WINDS COME AROUND TO 
THE NE AND EAST. 

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
DAB  76  62  81  69 /  20  10  10  20 
MCO  78  62  82  67 /  10  10  10  20 
MLB  78  66  82  71 /  20  10  10  10 
VRB  79  64  84  69 /  20  10  10  10 
LEE  76  60  81  66 /  10  10  20  20 
SFB  77  61  82  68 /  10  10  10  20 
ORL  78  61  82  68 /  10  10  10  20 
FPR  79  62  84  69 /  20  10  10  10 

&&

.MLB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
FL...NONE.
AM...NONE.

&&

$$

SHORT TERM/AVIATION...WIMMER
LONG TERM....MOSES


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