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Flushing, Michigan, United States (48433)
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 Lat: 43.06N, Lon: 83.84W
Wx Zone: MIZ061 ICAO Used: KFNT
Area Discussion for County Warning Area DTX:
FXUS63 KDTX 252343
AFDDTX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
643 PM EST WED NOV 25 2009

.AVIATION...

A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE EASTERN UPPER PENINSULA WILL SLOWLY 
MOVE EASTWARD TONIGHT AND THURSDAY. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST IT WILL 
DRAG AN AREA OF WRAP AROUND RAIN FROM THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES 
TONIGHT...WITH WIDESPREAD MVFR/ISOLATED IFR CONDITIONS MUCH OF THE
NIGHT. A DRY SLOT OF AIR WILL WORK ITS WAY INTO THE AREA AROUND
13Z ENDING THE RAIN AND BRINGING VFR/MVFR CONDITIONS TO MANY OF
THE TAF SITES. THE EXCEPTION WILL BE MBS...WHICH WILL BE THE PIVOT
POINT FOR THE RAIN AS RAIN SHOWERS AND MVFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE
THROUGH THURSDAY. ANOTHER BATCH OF RAIN WILL HEAD FOR THE TAF
SITES LATE IN THE AFTERNOON HOURS AS A TROF SWINGS THROUGH THE
CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. GIVEN THE LATE ARRIVAL OF THE NEXT BATCH OF
RAIN AND THE POSSIBILITY IT WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL AFTER 00Z WILL
LEAVE THE TAF SITES DRY LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 343 PM EST WED NOV 25 2009 

SHORT TERM...TONIGHT

MID LEVEL WAVE CURRENTLY OVER SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN IS PRODUCING 
AREAS OF LIGHT SHOWERS AND DRIZZLE.  THIS WILL BE EXITING THE AREA 
THIS EVENING.  A SECOND STRONGER WAVE OVER IOWA WILL ROTATE INTO 
MICHIGAN OVERNIGHT PUSHING AN ELEVATED COLD FRONT THROUGH EARLY 
TONIGHT KEEPING THE BOUNDARY LAYER RELATIVELY WARM.  THIS WILL 
CONTINUE THE AREAS OF LIGHT SHOWERS AND DRIZZLE.  TEMPERATURES WILL 
DROP INTO THE UPPER 30S TO LOWER 40S.

LONG TERM...THANKSGIVING THROUGH NEXT WEDNESDAY

CONDITIONS FOR THANKSGIVING WILL NOT BE THAT GREAT AESTHETICALLY BUT 
WILL BE BEARABLE OTHERWISE AS WE WILL SPEND MOST OF THE DAY IN THE 
DRY SLOT OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE GREAT LAKES. BOUNDARY 
LAYER MOISTURE PROFILES ARE UNFAVORABLE FOR DRIZZLE AND THERE COULD 
EVEN BE A FEW BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS AT TIMES. THIS SUGGESTS LEANING 
TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO GUIDANCE HIGHS IN THE MID 40S FOR MOST AREAS, 
ESPECIALLY WITH A SOUTHWEST WIND.

THINGS GET MORE INTERESTING THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM 
EVOLVES INTO A STRONG PATTERN OF MID LEVEL DEFORMATION OVER LOWER 
MICHIGAN. ALL OF THE 12Z MODELS HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THIS FORCING 
USING 500 MB VORTICITY AS A PROXY FOR THE DYNAMICS IN THE WIND 
FIELD. PREFER THE SOLUTIONS THAT SHOW GREATER COVERAGE AND AMOUNTS 
OF PRECIPITATION DUE TO THE TENDENCY FOR THESE PATTERNS TO 
OVERACHIEVE WITH A GIVEN AMOUNT OF MOISTURE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE 
ARE NOT READY TO GO ANY HIGHER THAN THE GFS SOLUTION FOR QPF IN SE 
MICHIGAN. THE DEFORMATION AND LIFT ARE SHOWN TO OCCUR IN A 
RELATIVELY STABLE ENVIRONMENT JUDGING FROM CROSS SECTIONS OF 
THETA-E. MOISTURE ALSO LOOKS LIKE A LIMITING FACTOR WITH SPECIFIC 
HUMIDITY RUNNING AROUND 1G/KG. THERE IS ALSO THE QUESTION OF 
PRECIPITATION TYPE WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE ALL RAIN OR A MIX OF 
RAIN AND SNOW DURING THE EVENING. MODEL FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE 
A WARM BOUNDARY LAYER WELL INTO THE OVERNIGHT WITH THE BEST CHANCE 
OF ALL SNOW OCCURRING ON THE HEELS OF THE PRECIPITATION PATTERN. THE 
BEST WORDING AT THIS POINT CALLS FOR RAIN AND SNOW LIKELY AFTER 
MIDNIGHT WITH PERHAPS A COATING OF GRASSY ACCUMULATION BY SUNRISE 
FRIDAY MORNING.

AFTER A LINGERING CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW FRIDAY MORNING, THE 
REST OF THE DAY WILL BE DRY BUT IT WILL BE COLDER. MODEL THICKNESS 
IN THE 1000-850 MB LAYER IS AROUND 1296DM THROUGH THE DAY AND 
SUGGESTS A STRUGGLE FOR TEMPERATURES TO BREAK INTO THE 40S. A STIFF 
NORTHWEST WIND AND PLENTIFUL CLOUD COVER WILL ALSO WORK AGAINST MUCH 
OF A TEMPERATURES RISE. DRY CONDITIONS ARE THEN EXPECTED TO LAST 
THROUGH SATURDAY AS WEAK SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE MOVES QUICKLY THROUGH 
THE REGION AND WARM ADVECTION GETS UNDERWAY AGAIN. EXPECT AN 
AGGRESSIVE WARMING TREND TO TAKE HOLD DURING THIS TIME THAT WILL 
LAST INTO SUNDAY. THIS WILL BE THANKS TO RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF ZONAL 
FLOW IN THE LONG WAVE PATTERN BUT WITH THE UPPER RIDGE GUARDING 
LOWER MICHIGAN AS IT WEAKENS WITH TIME. AS IS TYPICAL OF ZONAL FLOW, 
IT WILL BE SHORT LIVED. THERE IS GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG THE GLOBAL 
MODELS ON A NEW ROUND OF AMPLIFICATION TAKING PLACE DURING SUNDAY 
AND MONDAY AND GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE NEW LARGER SCALE TROUGH FORMING 
OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS. CONSIDERING THE TROUGH AXIS WILL REMAIN TO 
OUR WEST THROUGH MOST OF MONDAY, THERE IS SOME CONFIDENCE IN THE 
PROSPECTS OF MODERATING TEMPERATURES LASTING THAT LONG BUT AT THE 
EXPENSE OF WET AND UNSETTLED CONDITIONS.   

SOME CONVERGENCE OF SOLUTIONS HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE 12Z RUNS  
REGARDING THE EVOLUTION OF THE PLAINS TROUGH DURING TUESDAY AND 
WEDNESDAY. THE NEW LONG WAVE AMPLIFICATION FROM THE NORTH PACIFIC 
INTO NORTH AMERICA DURING THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK FAVORS A 
PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE PLAINS TROUGH IN A SHORT WAVE SENSE WITH A 
NEW SHORT WAVE DROPPING INTO THE PLAINS TO MAINTAIN THE LONG WAVE 
TROUGH/UPPER LOW DURING THE MID WEEK PERIOD. THIS WOULD BE THE CASE 
REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH SPLIT FLOW DEVELOPS AND HOW STRONG THE 
SOUTHERN STREAM WAVE MAY BECOME. THE PASSAGE OF THE LEAD NORTHERN 
STREAM WAVE THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES WILL BRING A RETURN TO COLDER 
TEMPERATURES DURING THAT TIME BUT WITH ODDS IN OUR FAVOR FOR DRY 
CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE STRONG TREND OF THE 12Z GFS IN THAT 
DIRECTION.

MARINE...

LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE STRAITS WILL MAINTAIN SOUTHWEST WINDS 20 KNOTS 
OR LESS OVER THE MARINE AREAS TONIGHT THROUGH MOST OF THANKSGIVING. 
A COLD FRONT WILL THEN MOVE THROUGH LAKE HURON AND LOWER MICHIGAN 
THURSDAY NIGHT AND BRING A ROUND OF STRONGER NORTHWEST WINDS ON 
FRIDAY. THE COLDER AIR AND STRONGER WINDS WILL BUILD THE WAVES 
ENOUGH OVER SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE HURON TO LIKELY REQUIRE A 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY. SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL THEN BUILD QUICKLY 
THROUGH THE REGION ON SATURDAY AND ENSURE DRY CONDITIONS. MILDER 
SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL THEN LAST THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEKEND.

&&

.DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LAKE HURON...NONE.
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.
MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.

&&

$$

AVIATION.....KURIMSKI
SHORT TERM...DRC
LONG TERM....BT
MARINE.......DRC/BT

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