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Elsanor, Alabama, United States
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 Lat: 30.55N, Lon: 87.58W
Wx Zone: ALZ064 ICAO Used: KJKA
Area Discussion for County Warning Area MOB:
FXUS64 KMOB 081756
AFDMOB

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
1154 AM CST TUE DEC 8 2009

.AVIATION (18Z ISSUANCE)...DIFFICULT CEILING FORECAST FOR TAFS.  
WARM FRONT CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING INLAND THROUGH THE 
COASTAL COUNTIES BUT CEILINGS HAVE BEEN SLOW TO RISE.  HAVE GONE 
WITH PREVAILING MVFR CONDITIONS THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD WITH 
TEMPO GROUPS FOR SHOWERS GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING TO IFR CONDITIONS 
IN THUNDERSTORMS FROM ABOUT 6-10Z AS A WEAKENING SQUALL LINE IS 
EXPECTED TO MOVE THROUGH THE AREA.  VFR CONDITIONS FOLLOW IN THE 
WAKE A COLD FRONT WHICH MOVES THROUGH AROUND 14-16Z WEDNESDAY. /29

** PREVIOUS DISCUSSION **

.SHORT TERM...(TODAY AND TONIGHT) A MCS WHICH DEVELOPED OVER SOUTH 
CENTRAL LOUISIANA LAST NIGHT CONTINUES TO SPREAD EAST...TRACKING 
ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COOL SIDE OF A DEVELOPING WARM FRONT OVER THE 
NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. THIS COMPLEX HAS ALSO BEEN AIDED BY STRONG 
UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE ASSOCIATED WITH A 100 KT 200 MB JET WHICH HAS 
TRACKED ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF OVERNIGHT. WHILE THE DIVERGENCE 
ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER JET WILL DIMINISH THIS MORNING AS THE JET 
MAX SHIFTS EAST...ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL INCREASE AS A LOW LEVEL JET 
CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN RESPONSE TO THE DEVELOPING STORM SYSTEM 
OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THEREFORE...EXPECT PERIODS OF RAIN TO 
CONTINUE ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS WITH ISOLATED 
THUNDER POSSIBLE ALONG THE CLOSE WHICH IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE 
WARM FRONT.

THE LATEST OBS ACTUALLY SUGGEST THE WARM FRONT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE 
COAST WITH WINDS AT THE BUOY JUST SOUTH OF ORANGE BEACH HAVING GONE 
SOUTHEAST WITH A DEWPOINT OF 60. MEANWHILE...WINDS ALONG THE COASTAL 
COUNTIES ARE STILL OUT OF THE EAST AND NORTHEAST WITH DEWPOINTS IN 
THE LOWER 50S. THE WIDESPREAD PRECIP THIS MORNING WILL LIKELY DELAY 
THE FRONT FROM SURGING NORTH AS THE COOL STABLE LAYER INLAND IS 
FURTHER REINFORCED. HOWEVER...AS 850 MB WINDS INCREASE TO NEAR 50 
KTS THIS AFTERNOON...THE BOUNDARY SHOULD BEGIN TO SPEED UP ITS 
NORTHWARD PROGRESSION WITH THE ENTIRE CWA EXPECTED TO BE IN THE WARM 
SECTOR BY EARLY THIS EVENING. AS THE WARM FRONT SHIFTS NORTH...THE 
CORRESPONDING ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL SHIFT NORTH AS WELL. THEREFORE... 
PRECIP IN THE WARM SECTOR WILL LIKELY BECOME MORE SCATTERED IN 
NATURE...ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE LACK OF ANY LARGE SCALE UPPER 
LEVEL FORCING.  

THE BIG QUESTION FOR LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT IS HOW MUCH OF 
A SEVERE WEATHER THREAT WILL WE HAVE. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED...WE 
EXPECT MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE AREA TO BE WARM SECTORED BY EARLY THIS 
EVENING WITH DEWPOINTS CLIMBING INTO THE LOW AND MID 60S. EVEN WITH 
THIS MOIST AIRMASS...INSTABILITY STILL LOOKS HARD TO COME BY GIVEN 
850-500 MB LAPSE RATES OF ONLY 5.5 C/KM. MLCAPES LOOK TO STRUGGLE TO 
REACH 500 J/KG ACROSS THE AREA. SREF PROBS HAVE INCREASED SINCE 
YESTERDAY REGARDING CHANCES FOR CAPES OF 500 J/KG...BUT THEY ARE 
STILL ONLY 30-50%...WHICH IS NOT VERY HIGH FOR A SHORT TERM 
FORECAST. ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE LACK OF LARGE SCALE LIFT IN 
VICINITY OF THE WARM SECTOR. ALL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON 
KEEPING THE BEST FORCING WELL TO OUR NORTHWEST AS THE SHORTWAVE 
ENERGY BECOMES NEGATIVELY TITLED OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND LIFTS 
INTO THE MIDWEST TONIGHT. SO FOR A GOOD PART OF THE EVENING...THERE 
IS SOME QUESTION AS TO HOW MUCH CONVECTION WE WILL EVEN HAVE. AN 
850-700MB CONFLUENCE AXIS DOES SHIFT EAST OVERNIGHT...AND THIS MAY 
HELP TO SUPPORT A BROKEN LINE OF STORMS INTO THE REGION. BY THIS 
TIME...THE LOW LEVEL WIND FIELD IS VEERING AND WE LOSE A GOOD 
PORTION OF THE 0-1KM SRH. STILL...0-6KM BULK SHEAR WILL BE ON THE 
ORDER OF 50-60 KT AND 0-1KM SRH STILL MORE THAN SUFFICIENT AT 
200-250 M2/S2. SO IF WE CAN REALIZE ENOUGH INSTABILITY 
OVERNIGHT...THEN THERE WILL BE THE CHANCE FOR A FEW SEVERE STORMS 
WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR DAMAGING WINDS AND ISOLATED TORNADOES. 
HOWEVER...AT THIS JUNCTURE IT STILL APPEARS THAT THE INGREDIENTS ARE 
STILL OUT OF PHASE...WHICH WOULD PREVENT A MORE WIDESPREAD THREAT. 
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE EVOLUTION OF THIS SYSTEM VERY 
CAREFULLY. 

STAYED CLOSE TO MOS FOR HIGHS TODAY...BUT WENT WARMER FOR TONIGHT 
GIVEN THE DELAY OF COLD AIR ADVECTION UNTIL WEDNESDAY. ONCE WE ARE 
WARM SECTORED...IT WILL BECOME BREEZY WITH SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 15 
MPH AND GUSTS TO 25 MPH. IF THE BOUNDARY LAYER BECOMES MORE UNSTABLE 
THAN CURRENTLY EXPECTED...WINDS MAY REACH CLOSE TO WIND ADVISORY 
CRITERIA. SOMETHING ELSE WE WILL WATCH THROUGH THE DAY.  34/JFB

.MARINE...A WARM FRONT WILL MOVE NORTH OVER THE MARINE AREA THIS
MORNING WITH SOUTH TO SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS INCREASING THROUGH THE
DAY. DECIDED TO COMBINE THE START TIMES OF THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY 
FOR THE OFFSHORE WATERS AND START IT AT 15Z. MOBILE BAY WILL GO INTO 
ADVISORY AT 21Z. WINDS VEER TO THE SOUTHWEST AND INCREASE FURTHER 
TONIGHT AS A DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS THE SOUTHERN 
PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST. SEAS WILL RESPOND TO THE INCREASED 
SOUTHERLY FLOW WITH SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHTS BUILDING TO 5 TO 8 
FEET. A COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF DURING THE DAY 
WEDNESDAY WITH A STRONG OFFSHORE FLOW DEVELOPING WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 
WINDS STAY STRONG AND BECOME EASTERLY BY FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE 
MOVES TOWARD THE CAROLINAS AND A SURFACE LOW BEGINS TO DEVELOP OVER 
THE WESTERN GULF. THE LOW IS FORECAST TO TRACK ACROSS THE NORTHERN 
GULF LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...MAINTAINING A STRONG WIND FIELD AND 
BRINGING ANOTHER ROUND OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO THE AREA. 
34/JFB

.LONG TERM..BY 12Z WED MAIN UPPER SHORT WAVE /SFC LOW MOVES NORTH TO 
THE UPPER MS RIVER VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES REGION WITH TRAILING COLD 
FRONT JUST WEST OR NEAR THE SE MS/SW AL BORDER PROGGED TO MOVE JUST 
EAST OF THE CWFA BY AROUND 18Z. AHEAD OF THE FRONT LIGHT RAIN WITH A 
FEW SCATTERED SHOWERS CAN BE EXPECTED WITH THE BETTER RAIN CHANCES 
OCCURRING OVER EASTERN AND COASTAL SECTIONS OF CWFA WED MORNING. DUE 
TO LIMITED FORCING IN THE MID LEVELS AND MARGINAL INSTABILITY ACROSS 
THE REGION BY THIS TIME WED WILL MENTION PRECIP AS MAINLY SHOWERS 
THROUGH 18Z. FOR WED AFTERNOON GOOD CLEARING IS NOTED IN THE LOWER 
LEVELS FROM WEST TO EAST BY MOST OF THE MODEL GUIDANCE WITH SOME LOW 
STATUS LINGERING ALONG THE COAST AND OFFSHORE THROUGH 00Z. 
ALOFT...FAVORABLE REGION OF UPPER JET STRETCHING FROM THE GREAT 
PLAINS TO THE MID ATLANTIC REGION GIVES WAY TO INCREASED LIFT ACROSS 
MUCH OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION LATE WED INTO THU RESULTING IN 
SOME HIGH TO MID CLOUDINESS TO REFORM OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL GULF 
COAST REGION WED NIGHT INTO THU. THE EXTRA CLOUDS WILL LIKELY HAVE 
AN EFFECT ON TEMPS WED NIGHT LEADING ME TO GO SLIGHTLY WARMER THEN 
MAV GUIDANCE FOR MINS EARLY THU MORNING BUT NOT AS WARM AS THE MET 
GUIDANCE...WHICH SHOWS MUCH WARMER CONDITIONS BY THU MORNING MOST 
LIKELY FROM BETTER HIGH CLOUDINESS FORMING AND MOVING IN FROM THE 
NORTH. FOR THU INTO FRI SFC RIDGE SETTLES OVER MUCH OF THE SE CONUS 
AND TN RIVER VALLEY EVENTUALLY SETTING THE STAGE FOR GOOD 
OVERRUNNING OR LAYER LIFT EVENT DEVELOPING FROM WEST TO EAST LATE 
FRI INTO SAT IN RESPONSE TO NEXT SHORT WAVE/SFC LOW APPROACHING FROM 
THE WEST AND GOOD MOISTURE STILL PRESENT IN THE MID TO UPPER 
LEVELS.  BOTH GFS AND ECMWF SHOW REMNANT FRONTAL BOUNDARY WELL 
OFFSHORE RETROGRADING NORTHWARD AS A WARM FRONT FRI NIGHT INTO 
SAT...REACHING TO THE IMMEDIATE COAST OR MOVING JUST INLAND SAT 
MORNING THEN SHIFTING SE OR EAST OF THE CWFA BY 00Z SUN. DUE TO 
WIDESPREAD RAIN DEVELOPING WELL AHEAD OF THIS NEXT SYSTEM DURING THE 
DAY ON FRI AND PLENTY OF WET GROUND SURFACE ACROSS THE REGION 
CONDITIONS WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSELY MONITORED FOR POSSIBLE FLOODING 
OR FLASH FLOODING MOSTLY FRI NIGHT AND EARLY SAT MORNING. FOR LATER 
IN THE PD UPPER FLOW REMAINS MOSTLY ZONAL AND PROGRESSIVE IN NATURE 
GIVING WAY TO ANOTHER ROUND OF WET WEATHER BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. AS 
FOR TEMPS AS MENTIONED ABOVE WILL GO SLIGHTLY WARMER THAN THE MEX 
GUIDANCE FOR WED NIGHT THEN STAY CLOSE TO THE CURRENT 00Z GUIDANCE 
THROUGH THE REMAIN OF THE FORECAST PD.          

&&

.AVIATION....(12Z TAF CYCLE) WIDESPREAD RAIN AND MVFR CIGS CURRENTLY 
AFFECTING ALL TAF SITES AND THIS LOOKS TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 
SEVERAL HOURS. ALSO CANNOT RULE OUT ISOLATED THUNDER THIS MORNING 
ESPECIALLY AS DEEPER CONVECTION MOVES EAST OUT OF LOUISIANA. A WARM 
FRONT WILL SURGE NORTH LATER TODAY WITH WINDS BECOMING INCREASINGLY 
STRONG OUT OF THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST. WILL SEE PERIODS OF SHOWERS 
AND THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH THE PERIOD...SOME OF WHICH COULD BE 
STRONG...ESPECIALLY TONIGHT. CIGS WILL BE PREDOMINATE MVFR BUT MAY 
SEE OCCASIONAL IFR.  34/JFB

&&

.FIRE WEATHER...AFTERNOON RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL LIKELY FALL BELOW 
35 PERCENT OVER SOME INLAND AREAS OF NWFL ON THU BUT LESS THAN 4 
HOURS. FOR NOW...WILL CONTINUE TO MONITORED THIS SITUATION CLOSELY  
FOR POSSIBLE WATCHES OR WARNINGS FOR THU AFTERNOON. /32  

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
MOBILE      70  63  69  37 / 100  80  30  00 
PENSACOLA   69  64  72  43 /  90  70  40  00 
DESTIN      68  65  73  45 /  80  60  50  00 
EVERGREEN   68  62  67  35 /  90  90  30  00 
WAYNESBORO  68  56  63  32 / 100  90  20  00 
CAMDEN      66  60  65  34 / 100  90  20  00 
CRESTVIEW   69  65  74  38 /  80  70  40  00 

&&

.MOB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
AL...NONE.
FL...NONE.
MS...NONE.
GM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 9 AM TUESDAY TO NOON WEDNESDAY FOR
     THE FOLLOWING ZONES: COASTAL WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA
     FL OUT 20 NM...COASTAL WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO 
     PASCAGOULA MS OUT 20 NM...WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL
     FROM 20 TO 60 NM...AND WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA
     MS FROM 20 TO 60 NM. 

     SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 3 PM TUESDAY TO NOON WEDNESDAY FOR
     THE FOLLOWING ZONES: MOBILE BAY. 

&&

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