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Elmdale, Kansas, United States (66850)
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 Lat: 38.37N, Lon: 96.65W
Wx Zone: KSZ053 ICAO Used: KEMP
Area Discussion for County Warning Area ICT:
FXUS63 KICT 231148
AFDICT

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS
548 AM CST WED DEC 23 2009

.AVIATION...12Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU
A VERY STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS STRENGTHENING OVER THE
SOUTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTRY...AND WILL MOVE NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD
KANSAS TONIGHT. CONDITIONS AT ALL TAF SITES WILL BE LIFR FOR THE
MAJORITY OF THE PERIOD...WITH LOW CEILINGS AND FOG. AS THE LOW
APPROACHES...MUCH COLDER AIR WILL MOVE SOUTHEASTWARD WITH GUSTY
NORTH WINDS. PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE TO SNOW THIS EVENING ACROSS
CENTRAL KANSAS AND LATE IN THE TAF PERIOD ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL
KANSAS. WITH THE GUSTY WINDS...VISIBILITIES COULD VERY WELL DECREASE
TO BELOW 1SM...BUT WILL NOT GO QUITE THAT LOW THIS FAR OUT. THESE
CONDITIONS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO IMPROVE MUCH...IF AT ALL...THROUGH
THURSDAY.

SCHRECK

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 513 AM CST WED DEC 23 2009/ 

UPDATE...
WE ARE SENDING OUT A QUICK UPDATE TO ISSUE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY
FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS. WE MADE
SEVERAL CALLS TO DISPATCHERS AND THE OFFICERS WERE REPORTING DENSE
FOG IN THESE AREAS. THE FOG SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH MID MORNING.

COX

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 333 AM CST WED DEC 23 2009/ 

DISCUSSION...

THE MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS FORECAST PACKAGE CONTINUES TO BE THE HIGH 
WIND POTENTIAL WITH THIS SYSTEM AND PLACEMENT OF THE HIGHEST 
SNOWFALL TOTALS.

TODAY:
LATEST WATER VAPOR LOOP WAS SHOWING A VERY POWERFUL CLOSED UPPER LOW 
MOVING THROUGH THE DESERT SOUTHWEST. THIS SYSTEM STILL APPEARS TO BE 
DIGGING THROUGH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WITH ABOUT 100KTS AROUND 500MB 
ACCORDING TO AN AIRCRAFT REPORT. AS A RESULT...WE WILL CONTINUE TO 
SEE THIS SYSTEM DIVE SOUTH DURING THE NEXT 12 HOURS. FROM THAT 
POINT...IT APPEARS LIKE THAT SYSTEM SHOULD HEAD EAST TOWARDS THE 
TEXAS PANHANDLE. LATEST WATER VAPOR LOOP IS ALSO SHOWING A MID LEVEL 
DRY SLOT MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA. THIS DRY SLOT MAY CREEP 
INTO SOUTHERN KANSAS THIS MORNING WHICH MAY CAUSE THE SHOWERS TO 
DIMINISH TO DRIZZLE ACROSS SOUTHERN CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS. 
CENTRAL KANSAS ON THE OTHER HAND MAY SEE THE FREEZING RAIN/FREEZING 
DRIZZLE LINGER THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. I WOULD ALSO EXPECT 
TEMPERATURES TO GRADUALLY FALL AS THE DAY WEARS ON WITH THE FRONTAL 
BOUNDARY SINKING SOUTH...DUE TO THE SURFACE LOW DEVELOPING SOUTH OF 
THE AREA WHICH WILL HELP DRAW IN THE COLDER AIR. WE PLAN ON LEAVING 
THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FOR CENTRAL KANSAS TODAY...BUT 
WE MAY HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS FOR FREEZING 
DRIZZLE IF THAT COOLER AIR CONTINUES TO FILTER SOUTH. A FEW 
THUNDERSTORMS ALSO STILL CANNOT BE RULED OUT WITHIN THE DRY 
SLOT...DUE TO MIXED LAYER CAPE VALUES AROUND 500J/KG BUT THE SEVERE
CHANCES LOOK FAIRLY SLIM AT THIS POINT. 

TONIGHT:
LATEST IR LOOP IS SHOWING HIGHER CLOUD TOPS DEVELOPING IN CENTRAL 
NEW MEXICO AHEAD OF THE POTENTIAL VORTICITY ANOMALY. THIS MAY AID IN 
ENHANCING THE SNOW POTENTIAL IN NORTHEAST COLORADO AND NORTHWEST 
KANSAS THIS AFTERNOON...BUT THE MAIN QUESTION WILL BE IF THIS BAND 
OF SNOW CAN HOLD TOGETHER AS THIS WAVE SHIFTS EAST. THIS SYSTEM WILL 
ALSO CONTINUE TO DRAW IN COLDER AIR AS THE NIGHT WEARS ON AND CAUSE 
THE FREEZING RAIN/RAIN TO CHANGE TO SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL AND PORTIONS 
OF SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS MAINLY WEST OF THE I-35/I-135 CORRIDOR. NOT 
ANTICIPATING HEAVY SNOW AT THIS TIME...BUT THE WIND WILL CERTAINLY 
BECOME A FACTOR AS THE NIGHT WEARS ON. THE GEFS/GFS IS STILL 
SUGGESTING 50KT WINDSPEEDS AT 850MB WHICH WOULD SUGGEST 25 TO 30KT 
WINDS POSSIBLE ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS TOWARDS 
DAYBREAK. THESE STRONG WINDS COMBINED WITH ANY SNOW FLYING DURING 
THIS TIMEFRAME WILL DEFINITELY HAMPER TRAVEL AND COULD CAUSE GROUND 
BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AND DENDRITIC SPLINTERING. AS A RESULT...WE WENT 
AHEAD AND UPGRADED TO A BLIZZARD WATCH FOR CENTRAL AND PORTIONS OF 
SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS AFTER 06Z.

THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT:
THIS TIMEFRAME REALLY IS STARTING TO LOOK UGLY. THE WIND SPEEDS 
SHOULD BEGIN TO KICK IN FULL FORCE ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTH CENTRAL 
KANSAS BY MIDDAY WITH SOME SNOWFALL POSSIBLE. NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE 
HEAVY OR NOT...BUT IT WILL NOT TAKE MUCH SNOWFALL TO PRODUCE 
BLIZZARD LIKE CONDITIONS. EVEN AN INCH OF SNOW COULD CAUSE WHITEOUT 
CONDITIONS. WIND SPEEDS ACCORDING TO THE GFS MAY REACH 35 TO 40 MPH 
AT TIMES WITH SOME GUSTS UP TO 55MPH. AS A RESULT...WE WENT AHEAD 
AND INTRODUCED THE BLIZZARD WATCH FOR THE REST OF SOUTH CENTRAL 
KANSAS. THE MAIN QUESTION WILL BE WHERE THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL BAND 
WILL SETUP CAMP. THE GFS/NAM/ECMWF/UKMET IS SUGGESTING THAT A TROWAL 
COULD FORM IN PORTIONS OF SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS ON 
THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND THURSDAY NIGHT. SNOWFALL TOTALS COULD REACH 
6-8 INCHES IN THAT AREA. THIS COMBINED WITH WIND SPEEDS OF 30 TO 35 
MPH MAY CREATE NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AS WELL. HOWEVER...WE 
DECIDED TO JUST GO WITH A WINTER STORM WATCH IN PORTIONS OF 
SOUTHEAST KANSAS AT THIS TIME TO MATCH UP BETTER WITH SURROUNDING 
OFFICES.

FRIDAY-SUNDAY:
THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THIS PERIOD WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THIS 
PERIOD'S FORECAST...THEREFORE MADE ONLY FAIRLY MINOR CHANGES WHERE 
CHANGES WERE MADE. THE 23/00Z OPERATIONAL GFS SHOWS THAT SNOW WILL 
CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY AND EVEN INTO SATURDAY ACROSS MUCH OF THE 
FORECAST AREA...WHILE THE ECMWF SHOWS PRECIPITATION NORTH AND EAST 
OF THE AREA BY FRIDAY MORNING. IF THE GFS DOES HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON 
THIS SYSTEM NOW...ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS CAN BE EXPECTED 
ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND THE FORECAST WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AS 
SUCH. 

WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF COLD AIR IN PLACE OVER THE AREA...AND LIKELY A 
NEW SNOWPACK...WOULD EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO BE EVEN COLDER THAN THE 
CURRENT FORECAST. HOWEVER...WITH SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY...DID NOT WANT 
TO MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AT THIS POINT. 

COX/SCHRECK

AVIATION...06Z TAFS KRSL/KSLN/KHUT/KICT/KCNU
ONLY CHANGES TO 00Z ISSUANCE WERE TO INTRODUCE TSRA/VCTS TO KCNU &
KICT TERMINALS RESPECTIVELY. OTHERWISE ALL 5 TERMINALS TO REMAIN
SHROUDED IN LIFR CIGS & VSBYS FOR REST OF THE NIGHT AS -FZDZ/-FZRA
INCREASING IN COVERAGE OVER CNTRL KS. WITH 850-MB WARM ADVECTION
INCREASING THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT & WED MORNING EXPECT ALL TERMINALS
TO REMAIN IFR STRATIFIED THROUGHOUT THE DAY WED.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
WICHITA-KICT    38  27  27  14 / 100  70  80  60 
HUTCHINSON      35  26  26  13 / 100  90  80  60 
NEWTON          37  26  26  14 / 100  70  80  60 
ELDORADO        41  29  29  14 / 100  70  80  60 
WINFIELD-KWLD   46  30  30  15 / 100  70  80  60 
RUSSELL         32  20  20  10 / 100 100  70  60 
GREAT BEND      33  23  23  11 / 100  90  70  60 
SALINA          34  24  24  12 / 100  90  80  60 
MCPHERSON       35  26  26  13 / 100  80  70  60 
COFFEYVILLE     56  36  36  18 / 100  90  80  60 
CHANUTE         51  34  34  18 / 100  90  80  60 
IOLA            49  34  34  17 / 100  90  80  60 
PARSONS-KPPF    54  35  35  18 / 100  90  80  60 

&&

.ICT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY 
MORNING FOR KSZ071-072-095-096-099-100.

DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR KSZ051>053-
067>070-082-083-091>093.

BLIZZARD WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING FOR 
KSZ032-033-047>052-067-068-082-083-091-092.

BLIZZARD WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING FOR 
KSZ053-069-070-093-094-098.

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT CST TONIGHT FOR KSZ032-
033-047>051-067.

&&

$$


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