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Electric Mills, Mississippi, United States
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 Lat: 32.77N, Lon: 88.46W
Wx Zone: MSZ046 ICAO Used: KNMM
Area Discussion for County Warning Area JAN:
FXUS64 KJAN 022039
AFDJAN

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
240 PM CST WED DEC 2 2009

.SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY/RUC 
ANALYSIS SHOWS THE CLOSED LOW SPINNING OVER THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER 
NEAR THE MISSISSIPPI...TENNESSEE...AND ARKANSAS STATE LINES. SURFACE 
ANALYSIS HAS THE LOW CENTERED OVER CENTRAL TENNESSEE. THE CLOSED LOW 
WILL WEAKEN INTO AN OPEN TROUGH AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST TONIGHT ALONG 
WITH THE SFC LOW ACROSS THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY. IN THE MEANTIME...THE 
GRADIENT WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WAS RESULTING 
IN GUSTY WINDS ACROSS THE CWA. A DRY SLOT FORMED OVER SOUTHEAST 
MISSISSIPPI EARLIER BUT HAS SHIFTED OVER ALABAMA. THIS WAS THOUGHT 
TO ENHANCE MIXING OF HIGHER WINDS ALOFT DOWN TO THE SURFACE OVER 
EAST MISSISSIPPI AND THE PREVIOUS LAKE WIND ADVISORY AREA WAS 
EXPANDED. THE LAKE WIND ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM 
FOR EAST MISSISSIPPI AND ALL AREA LAKES. LOCAL RADARS WERE SHOWING 
SOME LIGHT RAIN OVER THE HIGHWAY 82 CORRIDOR WITH ONLY PATCHY 
DRIZZLE ELSEWHERE OVER THE ARKLAMISS. THERE WILL REMAIN A CHANCE OF 
LIGHT RAIN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON IN THE NORTH BUT BY THIS EVENING 
ONLY PATCHY LIGHT DRIZZLE IS EXPECTED AS THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM 
MOVES FARTHER NORTH OF OUR CWA. IN THE WAKE OF THE LOWS TONIGHT 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN BUILDING IN FROM THE NORTHWEST 
WHILE OUR WINDS ALOFT BACK TO SOUTHWESTERLY AHEAD OF A DEEPENING 
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER NW CONUS. COOLER AND DRIER AIR WILL MOVE 
INTO THE REGION FROM THE NORTHWEST BUT SW FLOW ALOFT WILL BRING SOME 
MID TO HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS. OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL BE CLOSER TO NORMAL IN 
THE MID TO UPPER 30S AT MOST SITES. THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT WILL 
BE DRY AS HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE DROPS SOUTH TO THE SOUTHERN 
PLAINS WHILE THE LARGE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH SHIFTS TO THE CENTRAL 
CONUS. ALTHOUGH THE WINDS WILL BE MUCH LIGHTER THURSDAY THE CAA WILL 
CONTINUE TO HOLD TEMPERATURES WELL BELOW NORMAL. MOST SITES WILL 
STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 DEGREES IN THE NORTH WITH LOWER 50S EXPECTED 
SOUTH. THURSDAY NIGHT WILL BE COLD AND A GOOD PORTION OF THE AREA 
WILL DROP TO OR BELOW FREEZING. THE FORECAST GETS MORE INTERESTING 
FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. A SHORTWAVE WILL ROUND THE BASE OF THE 
LONG WAVE TROUGH AND HELP DEVELOP A SURFACE LOW OVER THE WESTERN 
GULF. THE ASSOCIATED RAIN WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL APPROACH OUR CWA 
FROM THE SW FRIDAY. THE GFS AND NAM BRING MOISTURE BACK INTO OUR 
AREA EARLIER FRIDAY THAN PREVIOUS RUNS SUGGESTED. OUR AIRMASS WILL 
BE QUITE DRY AND TAKE SOME TIME TO GET MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION BUT 
HAVE LEANED TOWARD THE HIGHER GFS POPS IN THE SOUTHWEST WHILE 
TRIMMING BACK IN THE NORTHEAST. AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL BE COOLER THAN 
NORMAL BUT WELL ABOVE FREEZING FROM THE UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S. THE 
PRECIPITATION WILL STILL BE FALLING AS WE MOVE INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. 
THE NAM AND GFS TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE WERE REMARKABLY CLOSE THROUGH 
THE SHORT TERM AND THE GFS WAS GENERALLY ACCEPTED. THE GFS/SREF/NAM 
AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE ECMWF STILL AGREE ON SOME POTENTIAL FOR 
SNOW FRIDAY NIGHT IN OUR CWA. LITTLE CHANGE FRIDAY NIGHT AND BEYOND 
WAS MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AND THE DISCUSSION FOLLOWS. /22/  

.LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WHAT I HAD FEARED LAST 
NIGHT IS BECOMING MORE OF A POSSIBILITY AS THE OUTLYING 
MODEL...WHICH WAS DEVELOPING SNOW ACROSS THE AREA...IS NOT THE 
OUTLIER ANYMORE. THE GFS...IS NOW LEADING THE WAY AND HAS STRONG 
SUPPORT FROM THE SREF AND MOST OF ITS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND SOME 
SUPPORT FROM THE NAM AND EURO. 8 OF 12 ENSEMBLE MEMBERS GENERATE 
MEASURABLE SNOW FRI NIGHT ACROSS THE CWA AND SNOW PROBABILITIES FROM 
THE SREF ARE RANGING FROM 40-60%. SUCH SUPPORT HAS TO BE TAKEN 
SERIOUSLY AND THE RESULT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FOR THE FRI 
NIGHT FORECAST WRT POPS AND PRECIP TYPE BECOMING AT LEAST LIGHT SNOW.

ONE MAY BE ASKING...WHAT HAS CHANGED TO NOW INCLUDE THIS INTO THE 
FORECAST? MAINLY DEEPER MOISTURE AND STRONGER SUPPORT FROM MORE 
MODELS. FORECAST LEADING INTO FRI NIGHT HAS GENERALLY ALWAYS 
PORTRAYED SOME SORT OF S/W MOVING THROUGH THE BASE OF THE LONG WAVE 
TROUGH. HOWEVER...THE TREND LAST NIGHT WAS FOR THE S/W TO BE 
STRONGER. WITH THAT...THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE MODEL GUID WAS 
GENERALLY DRY AND ONLY HAD CLOUDS WITH THAT TROUGH PASSAGE. THE GFS 
WAS REALLY THE ONLY MODEL SHOWING SNOW ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF ITS 
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS. SINCE LAST NIGHT...MUCH MORE SUPPORT HAS COME IN 
FROM VARIOUS GUID AND BASICALLY THERE HAS BEEN A 180 SWITCH AND NOT 
THE OUTLYING SOLUTION IS THE DRIER VERSION.

AS FOR SOME OF THE DETAILS...THE S/W IN QUESTION WILL BE RATHER 
POTENT AND PROVIDE STRONG ASCENT ACROSS THE REGION ALONG WITH 
HELPING TO DEVELOP A SFC LOW ACROSS THE N GULF. IT WILL BE THIS SFC 
LOW DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL GIVE THE S/W THE MOISTURE TAP TO DEVELOP 
PRECIP ABOVE THE COLD AIRMASS. I WILL SAY...THAT UNCERTAINTY IS 
STILL FAIRLY HIGH IN THIS SOLUTION AS IT IS SOME 60-72 HRS OUT AND 
ANYTIME WE ARE DEALING WITH WINTRY PRECIP IN OUR AREA...THINGS OFTEN 
CHANGE. THE GENERAL SETUP FOR THIS WINTRY POTENTIAL FRI NIGHT IS 
QUITE FAVORABLE AS WE WILL SEE CAA ONGOING FRI INTO FRI NIGHT WITH 
SFC PRESSURES RISING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE N. THE 
COMBINATION OF THE DEVELOPING GULF LOW IS ALSO SUPPORTIVE B/C IT 
PROVIDES MOISTURE. THE FLY IN THE OINTMENT IS WILL THE COLDER AIR 
MOVING SOUTHWARD BE TOO DRY AND EVAPORATE ALL OF THE FALLING PRECIP. 
THAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS. ADDITIONALLY...THE AIRMASS THAT WILL BE IN 
PLACE WILL NOT BE VERY COLD AND HIGH TEMPS FRI SHOULD BE IN THE 
MID/UPPER 40S. IF CLOUD COVER THICKENS FASTER AND VIRGA DEVELOPS 
EARLIER THE EVAP COOLING PROCESS WILL KEEP TEMPS COOLER AND MORE 
NEAR 40 DEGREES. WITH FREEZING CONDITIONS NOT ALREADY IN PLACE...WE 
WILL NEED OTHER MEANS TO GENERATE SNOW. THAT DOES NOT LOOK TO BE A 
PROBLEM AS DYNAMIC COOLING FROM THE STRONG S/W WILL PROVIDE THAT AS 
STRONG ASCENT WILL GENERATE PRECIP ALOFT WHICH WILL EVAPORATE AND 
COOL ANY LAYER THAT IS ABOVE FREEZING. ALSO...THIS ALL LOOKS TO COME 
TOGETHER FRI NIGHT AND WILL BE AIDED BY DIURNAL COOLING WHICH WILL 
MAKE IT EASIER TO DROP TEMPS TO CRITICAL LEVELS FOR PRECIP TO BECOME 
LIGHT SNOW. IT APPEARS AS MOISTURE VALUES...VERTICAL MOTION AND 
DURATION WILL ONLY SUPPORT LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS FROM 1/4 INCH TO 
POSSIBLY 1 INCH. THIS WILL ALSO OCCUR WITH TEMPS 31-34 
DEGREES...SIMILAR TO PREV SNOW EVENTS OVER THE PAST TWO WINTER 
SEASONS. HOWEVER...THOSE EVENTS HAD MUCH HIGHER MOISTURE TO WORK 
WITH WHICH RESULTED IN MORE ACCUMULATIONS OF WET SNOW. THIS LOOKS TO 
BE MUCH LIGHTER AT THIS POINT. ANY ACCUMS SHOULD BE ON GRASSY SFC'S 
OR ELEVATED SFC'S AND BE 1 INCH OR LESS.

IN THE WAKE OF THIS S/W FEATURE...SAT-SUN LOOK TO BE QUIET. 
HOWEVER...THAT MAY NOT LAST TOO LONG AS THE PATTERN WILL BE MORE OF 
FAST SW ALOFT WHICH OFTEN MAKES FOR QUICK TRANSITIONS AND A OVERALL 
WETTER PATTERN. WHILE DETAILS WILL BE VERY TOUGH TO GET 
DOWN...FOLLOWING THE GENERALITIES OF THE GUID SEEMS THE BEST WAY TO 
GO FOR SUN NIGHT THROUGH WED. DECENT PRECIP CHANCES AND A WARMING 
TREND LOOK TO BE IN STORE AND GUID VALUES WERE ACCEPTED.

AS FOR TEMPS/POPS AND WEATHER FOR FRI-SAT...I DID LOWER HIGHS ON FRI 
DUE TO THE CLOUD COVER AND EVAP COOLING POTENTIAL. ENSEMBLE MOS 
SUPPORTS THIS AS WELL. I DID LOWER POPS ON FRI AS I FEEL THE ON SET 
OF ANY LIGHT PRECIP WILL BE LATE AND MAINLY IN THE FRI NIGHT PERIOD. 
FOR FRI NIGHT...I LOWERED LOWS TO GET INTO THAT 31-34 RANGE WHICH 
COVERS THE WET BULB EFFECT AND FOLLOWS THE ENSEMBLE MEAN WHICH HAS 
BEEN LOWER THAN THE OPS GUID FOR THE PAST FEW RUNS. POPS WERE TOUGH 
AS MY INTUITION WOULD BE TO LOWER POPS DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY. 
HOWEVER...ALL THE DATA I HAVE LOOKED SAYS TO JUST STAY WITH THE 
LATEST GUID POPS AS MEASURING JUST A COUPLE HUNDREDTHS OF LIQUID 
EQUIVALENT IS VERY POSSIBLE. FOR NOW...LIGHT SNOW WORDING FITS THE 
SITUATION AS ANY SNOW ACCUM SHOULD BE AROUND 1 INCH OR LESS. /CME/

&&

.AVIATION...SURFACE LOW PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE NORTHEAST OF 
THE REGION THROUGH THURSDAY...WHILE AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVES 
NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA. MOISTURE WRAPPING AROUND THE LOW WILL 
CONTINUE TO RESULT IN AN OVERCAST DECK OF LOW CLOUDS THROUGH 
THURSDAY...WITH MVFR CEILINGS ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. A FEW 
BREAKS IN THE CLOUDS WILL BE FOUND ACROSS EASTERN MISSISSIPPI LATE 
THIS AFTERNOON... THOUGH THESE BREAKS SHOULD BE FAIRLY SHORT-LIVED 
BEFORE ADDITIONAL LOW CLOUDS MOVE IN. THROUGH LATE THIS 
AFTERNOON...SOUTHWEST TO WEST WINDS AT 10 TO 15 KT WITH GUSTS 
BETWEEN 17 AND 23 KT ARE EXPECTED...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS ACROSS 
CENTRAL AND EASTERN MISSISSIPPI. FOR TONIGHT...MVFR CEILINGS WILL 
CONTINUE...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR IFR CEILINGS...AND MVFR 
VISIBILITIES DUE TO FOG...AROUND KMEI LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY 
THURSDAY MORNING. FOR THIS EVENING AND CONTINUING INTO 
THURSDAY...WINDS WILL SUBSIDE TO THE 4 TO 7 KT RANGE WHILE BECOMING 
NORTHWESTERLY. MVFR CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO PERSIST INTO THURSDAY 
MORNING. CEILINGS COULD BEGIN TO IMPROVE TO VFR ACROSS THE REGION 
THURSDAY AFTERNOON...WITH SCATTERED CLOUDS WITH BASES AROUND 4000 FT 
PERSISTING. /COHEN/

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
JACKSON       38  50  34  50 /   9   0   5  19 
MERIDIAN      38  52  33  50 /   9   0   5   9 
VICKSBURG     38  50  33  49 /   9   0   5  30 
HATTIESBURG   41  53  35  52 /   7   0   5  18 
NATCHEZ       37  51  34  48 /   6   0   5  34 
GREENVILLE    36  48  33  46 /  15   0   5  21 
GREENWOOD     37  49  32  47 /  15   0   5  21 

&&

.JAN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MS...LAKE WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR MSZ026-
     028>033-037>039-043>046-049>052-055>058-063>066-072>074.

LA...LAKE WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR LAZ009.

AR...LAKE WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS EVENING FOR ARZ075.

&&

$$

22/CME/COHEN


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