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Eagleville, New York, United States
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 Lat: 43.08N, Lon: 73.31W
Wx Zone: NYZ084 ICAO Used: KDDH
Area Discussion for County Warning Area ALY:
FXUS61 KALY 030528
AFDALY

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
1227 AM EST THU DEC 3 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL TRACK FROM THE OHIO VALLEY TO THE 
EASTERN GREAT LAKES REGION TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING...BEFORE 
LIFTING NORTHEAST INTO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND AND THE CANADIAN 
MARITIMES BY LATE THURSDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A WIDESPREAD 
SOAKING RAINFALL TO THE REGION...AS WELL AS GUSTY WINDS. 
TEMPERATURES WILL BE VERY MILD ON THURSDAY BEFORE COLDER AIR MOVES 
IN BEHIND THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. A COLDER AND DRIER AIR MASS WILL 
REMAIN IN PLACE FOR THE END OF THE WORK WEEK.

&&

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/...
CURRENT EVOLUTION OF SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION SHIELD
CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT FORECAST. SOME TEMPERATURES ARE A COUPLE
OF DEGREES FROM FORECASTED MINIMA...SO JUST A FEW MINOR
TEMPERATURE ADJUSTMENTS. OTHERWISE...RAIN CONTINUES TO SPREAD
ACROSS THE REGION...AND THERE MAY BE AN ISOLATED RUMBLE OF THUNDER
TOWARD SUNRISE. WINDS WILL INCREASE AND BECOME QUITE GUSTY BY
SUNRISE...BUT NO WIDESPREAD GUSTS ABOVE 45 MPH EXPECTED MATE
TONIGHT OR TOMORROW...BUT SOME OF THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS MAY SEE
SOME HIGHER GUSTS. WIND GUSTS OVER 40 MPH CAN KNOCK DOWN SOME
ISOLATED TREES AND BRANCHES...BUT AGAIN...NOT EXPECTED TO BE
WIDESPREAD ENOUGH FOR ANY WIND HEADLINES.  NO OTHER CHANGES.

PREV AFD BELOW...

AS OF 315 PM...HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS CURRENTLY INCREASING FROM THE SOUTH 
AS A POTENT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE STARTS TO 
LIFT NORTHWARD. VIGOROUS 500 MB CLOSED LOW IS FORECAST TO OPEN UP 
TONIGHT AND ACCELERATE AS IT TRACKS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. RAIN 
SHIELD MAKING PROGRESS BUT CONFINED TO SOUTHERN PA/NJ AT THIS HOUR. 
IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MORE HOURS FOR THE RAIN TO BEGIN ACROSS OUR 
SOUTHERN ZONES. WILL MENTION DRY CONDITIONS INTO THE EVENING...THEN 
RAPIDLY INCREASE POPS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH BY MID TO LATE EVENING. 
TEMP PROFILES WILL BE WARM ENOUGH FOR AN ALL RAIN EVENT ACROSS THE 
ENTIRE FORECAST AREA DESPITE BEING EARLY DECEMBER. A SOAKING 
RAINFALL IS LIKELY ACROSS THE AREA WITH GENERALLY 0.75 TO 1.50 
INCHES EXPECTED.

THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES IN FORECAST MODELS WITH REGARDS TO THE 
EXACT TRACK OF THE SFC LOW CENTER...HOWEVER REGARDLESS OF THE EXACT 
TRACK WHICH WILL BE WEST OF THE AREA...PTYPE IS NOT AN ISSUE AND 
WILL BE ALL RAIN. THERE ARE SOME QPF DIFFERENCES...WITH ONE 
NOTICEABLE OUTLIER BEING THE 12Z GFS. THE GFS PUTS THE HIGHEST QPF 
OF 1.50-2.00 INCHES ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS WITH LESS THAN 
0.75 INCHES SOUTH AND EAST OF THERE. THIS DOES NOT SEEM AS 
REASONABLE...SINCE MORE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL SHOULD OCCUR ALONG THE 
NOSE OF THE SOUTHEAST LOW LEVEL JET AXIS...WHICH WILL BE ACROSS 
SOUTHEAST AREAS. SO...WILL GO WITH A UNIFORM QPF SOLUTION MORE IN 
LINE WITH 12Z ECMWF/GGEM INDICATING A PROGRESSIVE TRACK WHICH SHOULD 
PRECLUDE SIGNIFICANT PRECIP. PLEASE REFER TO HYDRO SECTION FOR 
FURTHER DETAILS.

THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME WIND ISSUED TO DEAL WITH FOR THIS SYSTEM 
BOTH PRIOR TO AND AFTER LOW PRESSURE MOVES THROUGH. 
FIRST...INCREASING SOUTHEAST FLOW ALOFT TO AROUND 60-70 KT WILL 
OCCUR OVERNIGHT MAINLY ACROSS SOUTHEAST AREAS. HOWEVER...WITH AN 
INVERSION FORECAST TO BE IN PLACE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THESE 
STRONG WINDS TO MID TO THE GROUND. STILL...SOME 35 TO 45 MPH GUSTS 
ARE POSSIBLE IN THE TYPICALLY FAVORED AREAS FOR CHANNELING IN 
SOUTHEAST FLOW SUCH AS THE SOUTHERN GREEN MOUNTAINS...NORTHERN 
BERKSHIRES AND THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS OF THE EASTERN CATSKILLS. THE 
MORE SUBSTANTIAL 925 MB WINDS ARE FORECAST ALONG COASTAL AREAS...SO 
WINDS WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A CONCERN ELSEWHERE THROUGH AROUND 12Z.

MODELS INDICATING SOME ELEVATED INSTABILITY PRESENT FROM AROUND 
09Z-12Z SO WILL MENTION A CHANCE OF THUNDER. IT DOES NOT APPEAR 
THERE WILL BE ANY SURFACE BASED INSTABILITY AND ANY LINEAR FORCED 
CONVECTIVE LINES SHOULD OCCUR SOUTH AND EAST OF OUR AREA.

MIN TEMPS WILL OCCUR MAINLY THROUGH MIDNIGHT...THEN GRADUALLY RISE 
THEREAFTER.

&&

.SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 330 PM...BY AROUND 12Z-15Z THUR THE RAINFALL WILL BE TAPERING 
OFF FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA AS THE LOW PULLS 
AWAY INTO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE 
SOUTHWEST...AS THE STRONGEST CORE OF WINDS ALOFT SHIFTS WELL TO THE 
EAST OF THE REGION. STILL...THERE WILL BE MUCH BETTER POTENTIAL FOR 
MIXING TO OCCUR WITH BREAKS OF SUN DEVELOPING BY AFTERNOON AND 
WEST-SOUTHWEST WINDS COULD GUSTS BETWEEN 35-40 MPH AT TIMES. AS A 
RESULT IN SOME SUNSHINE AND STRONG MIXING FOR THIS TIME OF 
YEAR...TEMPS WILL RISE INTO THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S FROM THE 
CAPITAL REGION SOUTH AND EAST. THE RECORD HIGH FOR ALBANY IS 58 AND 
THAT RECORD COULD BE BROKEN. PLEASE REFER TO CLIMO SECTION FOR 
DETAILS.

DRIER AND COLDER AIR WILL GRADUALLY FILTER INTO THE REGION THUR 
NIGHT AS A COLD ADVECTION REGIME SETS IN. THERE WILL BE ISOLATED TO 
SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE WESTERN ADIRONDACKS 
THUR NIGHT THROUGH FRI NIGHT...HOWEVER RELATIVELY LOW INVERSION 
HEIGHTS AND MARGINAL LAKE-INDUCED INSTABILITY WILL PRECLUDE A 
SIGNIFICANT EVENT. WILL MENTION MAINLY CHANCE POPS FOR NOW...WITH 
POTENTIAL REFINEMENT WITH SUBSEQUENT FORECASTS. WITH A W-SW MIXED 
LAYER FLOW REGIME FRI INTO FRI NIGHT...SNOW SHOWERS SHOULD BE 
CONFINED TO NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN ADIRONDACKS WITH ONLY 
MINOR ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME. TEMPS WILL BE CLOSER TO 
SEASONAL AVERAGES THROUGH FRI NIGHT...BUT WILL BE SLIGHTLY ABOVE 
NORMAL.

&&

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...
EXCEPT FOR A SLIGHT TO LOW CHANCE FOR SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE WEST 
AND NORTHWEST PART OF THE FORECAST AREA DUE TO A WEAK LAKE EFFECT 
PATTERN OR WEAK WARM ADVECTION....EXPECT FAIR AND SEASONABLY COLD 
WEATHER FOR MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY. THE 
SURFACE WAVE MOVING OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST ON SATURDAY WILL LIKELY 
PASS OUT TO SEA WELL TO OUR SOUTH AND EAST...WITH LITTLE IF ANY 
IMPACT ON OUR FORECAST AREA. AFTER THAT...A LARGE HIGH PRESSURE AREA 
WILL BUILD INTO THE REGION AND DOMINATE THROUGH TUESDAY. TEMPS WILL 
BE FAIRLY UNIFORM SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WITH HIGHS GENERALLY 
BETWEEN 30 AND 40...AND THE LOWS IN THE UPPER TEENS TO MID 20S.
 
THE NEXT SYSTEM THAT MAY BRING ANY WIDESPREAD PCPN TO THE REGION 
WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. RIGHT NOW THE GFS 
AND ECMWF DIFFER CONSIDERABLY. THE GFS IS MUCH STRONGER WITH MUCH 
MORE SIGNIFICANT QPF. THE ECMWF HAS A WEAK SYSTEM WITH SPOTTY PCPN 
DURING THIS PERIOD. AT THIS POINT WILL COMPROMISE ON A 40 PERCENT 
CHANCE OF PCPN ON WEDNESDAY.

&&

.AVIATION /06Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/...
LESS THAN IDEAL AVIATION CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT WITH THE COMBINATION 
OF MVFR/IFR CIG AND VIS AND LLWS.  VWP FROM THE RADARS REVEAL 
INCREASING LLJ WITH NEAR 50KTS AT 2K FEET.  THIS WILL CONTINUE THE 
REMAINDER OF THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AND HAVE HIT THIS HARD IN THE 
TAFS.  CHANCES OF THIS HIGHER MOMENTUM AIR REACHING THE GROUND IS 
RATHER LOW AND WILL ONLY PLACE WIND GUSTS INTO THE 20KT RANGE AS 
SOUTHERLY FLOW MOVES UP THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY.

AS THIS STORM QUICKLY TRACKS AWAY FROM THE REGION...DRY SLOT AND 
INCREASED MIXING WITHIN THE TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL RESULT IN 
BETTER POTENTIAL FOR THE HIGHER MOMENTUM AIR TO REACH THE GROUND 
WITH 30KTS EXPECTED UNDER A SCT-BKN MVFR CLOUD DECK.

OUTLOOK... 
THU OVRNT-SUN...VFR...NO SIG WX.
MON...VFR TO MVFR...CHANCE -SN.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY WILL BRING A 
WIDESPREAD RAINFALL...WITH TOTAL QPF AROUND 0.75 TO 1.50 INCHES 
LIKELY FROM TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING. THIS RAINFALL WILL CAUSE 
SIGNIFICANT RISES ON AREA RIVERS...BUT WILL LIKELY REMAIN WITHIN 
THEIR BANKS.  

MODELS INDICATE THAT THE BULK OF THE RAIN WILL OCCUR BETWEEN 
MIDNIGHT AND 7 AM THURSDAY. THIS HIGH INTENSITY RAINFALL MAY CAUSE 
SOME SMALL STREAMS TO FLOOD EARLY THURSDAY...AND WITH FALLEN LEAVES 
STILL AROUND MAY ALSO RESULT IN SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS ON ROADS AND 
PARKING AREAS. AN EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORM OR TWO IS POSSIBLE WHICH 
COULD LOCALLY ENHANCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS. RAIN WILL END THURSDAY 
MORNING AND THE STORM SYSTEM PULLS AWAY. BREEZY CONDITIONS WILL 
FOLLOW.

SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW MAY OCCUR THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY 
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN ADIRONDACKS IN THE WAKE OF THE STORM 
AS COLDER AIR MOVES BACK IN...BUT OTHERWISE IT WILL BE DRY ACROSS 
MUCH OF THE AREA. MAINLY DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THE REMAINDER OF 
THE PERIOD INTO THE WEEKEND...WITH JUST A CHANCE OF SOME LIGHT SNOW 
FROM THE FRINGES OF AN OCEAN LOW MOVING WELL OFF SHORE.

FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING
OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE
VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON
OUR WEBSITE.

&&

.CLIMATE...
TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY ARE FORECAST TO EXCEED DAILY HIGH 
TEMPERATURES RECORDS. BELOW IS A CHART OF THE OLD RECORDS...THE YEAR 
THEY WERE SET...AND THE FORECAST HIGH TEMP FOR DECEMBER 3RD.

LOCATION     RECORD YEAR FORECAST HIGH

ALBANY        58    1998    59
POUGHKEEPSIE  58    1962    63
GLENS FALLS   55    1998    57
PITTSFIELD    57    1950    59

&&

.ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CT...NONE.
NY...NONE.
MA...NONE.
VT...NONE.

&&

$$

AVIATION...BGM

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