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 Lat: 43.29N, Lon: 76.14W
Wx Zone: NYZ006 ICAO Used: KSYR
Area Discussion for County Warning Area BUF:
FXUS61 KBUF 092003
AFDBUF

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
303 PM EST WED DEC 9 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
AN INTENSE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED OVER LAKE HURON THIS 
AFTERNOON WILL TRACK NORTHEAST TO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES BY THURSDAY 
AFTERNOON. THIS WILL RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH WINDS ACROSS 
THE REGION WITH WIND DRIVEN LAKE EFFECT SNOWS DEVELOPING TONIGHT AND 
CONTINUING INTO AT LEAST FRIDAY. VERY HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOWS WILL 
BE FOUND IN THE TRADITIONAL SNOWBELT AREAS EAST OF BOTH LAKES ERIE 
AND ONTARIO.

&&

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH THURSDAY/...
975MB LOW CENTERED OVER NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN AT 19Z. FROM A 
SYNOPTIC STANDPOINT...SHORT TERM MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN TAKING 
THIS LOW ACROSS LAKE HURON AND GEORGIAN BAY THIS EVENING THEN MOVING 
INTO WESTERN QUEBEC BY THURSDAY MORNING...WITH A SECONDARY TRIPLE 
POINT/COASTAL REDEVELOPMENT OVER THE GULF OF SAINT LAWRENCE BY 
THURSDAY AFTERNOON. A POWERFUL COLD FRONT TRAILING THIS LOW WILL 
SURGE ACROSS THE CWA THROUGH THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON...REACHING 
THE EASTERN LAKE ONTARIO REGION BEFORE 00Z THURSDAY.

LOTS OF HIGH IMPACT WEATHER TO TALK ABOUT...HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN.

WINDS...
THE WIND WILL SHIFT QUICKLY TO THE SOUTHWEST WITH THE COLD 
FRONTAL PASSAGE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. MAY GET A QUICK BURST OF 
STRONG WINDS ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONT. MAY ALSO CONTINUE TO 
SEE ISOLATED TO SCATTERED CONVECTION ALONG THE FRONT...WITH LINE 
SEGMENTS POTENTIALLY LEADING TO AN ISOLATED DAMAGING WIND REPORT. 
THE MAIN EVENT WILL BE SYNOPTICALLY DRIVEN GRADIENT WINDS IN THE 
STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND THE FRONT. 925MB WINDS PEAK AT 
AROUND 50 KNOTS TONIGHT...AND MOST OF THIS WILL BE ABLE TO MIX DOWN 
IN THE FORM OF GUSTS WITH STRONG DOWNWARD MOMENTUM TRANSFER IN THE 
COLD AIR ADVECTION/PRESSURE RISE REGIME. EXPECT SUSTAINED WINDS IN 
THE 25-35 MPH RANGE WITH GUSTS TO 60 MPH. MAY EVEN SEE SOME GUSTS 
PUSHING OVER 60 MPH ALONG THE LAKE ERIE SHORE. EXPECT THE STRONGEST 
WINDS TO BE FROM THE NIAGARA FRONTIER TO ROCHESTER...AND ALSO 
NORTHEAST OF LAKE ONTARIO. THAT SAID...AREAS FROM THE INTERIOR 
SOUTHERN TIER THROUGH THE NORTHERN FINGER LAKES SHOULD GUST TO 50-55 
MPH WITH ISOLATED DAMAGE POSSIBLE. WILL THEREFORE KEEP THE HIGH WIND 
WARNING FOR THE ENTIRE CWA.

EXPECT THE WORST OF THE WINDS TO COME TONIGHT...BUT STRONG WINDS 
WILL CONTINUE DURING THE DAY THURSDAY WITH GUSTS IN THE 50-55 MPH 
RANGE CONTINUING. FOR NOW WILL KEEP THE HIGH WIND WARNING GOING 
THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY EVENING.

SYNOPTIC SNOWFALL...
EXPECT RAIN TO QUICKLY CHANGE TO SNOW SHOWERS FROM WEST TO EAST THIS 
EVENING. OUTSIDE OF LAKE EFFECT AREAS...SNOWFALL AMOUNTS SHOULD BE 
MINIMAL WITH AN INCH OR LESS TONIGHT FROM THE INTERIOR SOUTHERN TIER 
INTO THE WESTERN AND NORTHERN FINGER LAKES. GIVEN THE VERY MEAGER 
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS...SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH NO WINTER WEATHER 
HEADLINES IN THESE AREAS. ON THURSDAY JUST EXPECT SCATTERED LIGHT 
SNOW SHOWERS WITH LESS THAN AN INCH OUTSIDE OF LAKE EFFECT AREAS. 
THE SNOW SHOWERS MAY BE MORE CONCENTRATED UP IN THE NORTH COUNTRY 
WHERE AN INCH OR TWO MAY ACCUMULATE. 

LAKE EFFECT...

OFF LAKE ERIE... 
AIRMASS QUICKLY COOLS WITH 850MB TEMPS DROPPING TO AROUND -6C BY 00Z 
THURSDAY THEN TO ABOUT -12C BY 12Z. WINDS INITIALLY ABOUT 220-230 
DEGREES LATER THIS EVENING WILL SET UP THE BAND INITIALLY OVER THE 
BUFFALO NORTHTOWNS AND SOUTHERN NIAGARA/ORLEANS COUNTIES. THE BAND 
WILL THEN SHIFT SOUTH OVERNIGHT TO A 240 FLOW BY 12Z THURSDAY. BY 
12Z THURSDAY...EXPECT 2-5 INCHES OVER PORTIONS OF NIAGARA AND 
ORLEANS COUNTIES...WITH 3-6 POSSIBLE ACROSS THE BUFFALO METRO AREA 
TO GENESEE COUNTY. STRONG WINDS AND AN UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER WILL 
ALLOW DEEP INLAND PENETRATION...WITH A FEW INCHES POSSIBLE ALL THE 
WAY INTO THE ROCHESTER AREA.

DURING THE DAY THURSDAY EXPECT THE BAND TO SETTLE INTO A 240-250 
DEGREE CONFIGURATION. THIS WILL TARGET THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE 
BUFFALO METRO AREA INTO CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN GENESEE COUNTY AS WELL 
AS SOUTHERN ERIE/WYOMING COUNTIES. MESOSCALE MODELS ALSO SUGGEST THE 
BAND WILL BE HUGGING THE LAKE ERIE SHORE...IMPACTING WESTERN 
PORTIONS OF CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY AND EXTREME NORTHWEST CATTARAUGUS 
COUNTY. WILL GO WITH ADDITIONAL ACCUMS OF AROUND A FOOT ACROSS THE 
BUFFALO SOUTHTOWNS EAST TO SOUTHERN GENESEE AND SOUTHERN WYOMING 
COUNTIES. AMOUNTS WILL DROP OFF ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS AXIS. IN THE 
BUFFALO METRO AREA...EXPECT A WIDE RANGE FROM A FOOT IN THE 
SOUTHTOWNS TO ONLY AN INCH OR TWO IN THE NORTHTOWNS. 6-10 INCHES 
POSSIBLE OVER WESTERN CHAUTAUQUA AND EXTREME NORTHWEST CATTARAUGUS 
COUNTIES...BUT THIS IS SOMEWHAT LOWER CONFIDENCE WITH THE BAND JUST 
BARELY EDGING INTO THESE AREAS. THE STRONG WINDS MAY TEND TO SPREAD 
THE LAKE EFFECT OUT INTO A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN NORMAL...WITH 
SEVERAL BANDS POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF ONE INTENSE BAND. 

OFF LAKE ONTARIO...
EXPECT A BAND TO INITIALLY FORM AFTER MIDNIGHT NORTH OF WATERTOWN 
THROUGH THE THOUSAND ISLANDS REGION...THEN SINK SOUTH INTO THE 
WATERTOWN AREA BY MORNING. WILL GO WITH ACCUMS OF ONLY 1-3 INCHES BY 
MORNING WITH THE BETTER ORGANIZATION EXPECTED AFTER 12Z IN THIS 
AREA. DURING THE DAY THURSDAY...EXPECT THE BAND TO BECOME STEADY 
STATE ON A 240-250 FLOW...WHICH TARGETS THE WATERTOWN AREA EAST TO 
NORTHERN LEWIS COUNTY. WE TYPICALLY ALSO SEE UPSLOPE BRING HEAVY 
SNOW FARTHER SOUTH DOWN THE CREST OF THE TUG HILL...EVEN THOUGH THE 
FLOW DIRECTION DOES NOT NECESSARILY FAVOR THESE AREAS JUST YET. WILL 
GO WITH ADDITIONAL 8-10 INCH AMOUNTS FROM NEAR WATERTOWN EAST TO 
CROGHAN AND HARRISVILLE...AND ALSO SOUTHWARD DOWN THE TUG. ALSO 
CLIPPED EXTREME NORTHEAST OSWEGO COUNTY WITH ABOUT 6 INCHES IN 
REDFIELD DUE TO UPSLOPING. 

BLOWING/DRIFTING SNOW...
WITH WINDS OF THESE MAGNITUDES COUPLED WITH ACCUMULATING LAKE EFFECT 
SNOW...EXPECT SIGNIFICANT TO SEVERE BLOWING/DRIFTING SNOW IN AND 
NEAR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. ANY LOCATION THAT RECEIVES OVER 2 
INCHES OF SNOW CAN EXPECT SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING. EXPECT 
THE WORST CONDITIONS TO BE FROM THE BUFFALO SOUTHTOWNS INTO SOUTHERN 
ERIE...WYOMING...AND GENESEE COUNTIES. ALSO EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO 
ACROSS MUCH OF JEFFERSON AND THE NORTHERN HALF OF LEWIS COUNTIES.

NOTE...THE WINTER STORM WATCHES ARE BEING REPLACED BY LAKE EFFECT 
SNOW WARNINGS TO EMPHASIZE THE LOCALIZED NATURE OF THE HEAVIEST 
SNOW. BLOWING/DRIFTING WILL BE HIT HARD IN THE STATEMENTS. ALSO... 
THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS BEING CANCELLED OUTRIGHT FOR ALLEGANY 
COUNTY. MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND FARTHER NORTH WITH THE LAKE 
SNOWS...AND EXPECT ALLEGANY COUNTY TO MISS MOST IF NOT ALL OF THIS 
EVENT.

&&

.SHORT TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/...
BY THURSDAY EVENING THE CENTER OF THE INTENSE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM 
THAT CAUSED HAVOC ACROSS MUCH OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE NORTH OF 
THE CANADIAN MARITIMES ALREADY BUT ITS EFFECTS WILL STILL BE FELT 
ACROSS THE LOWER LAKES REGION INCLUDING OUR CWA THROUGH THE NIGHT 
AND BEYOND. 850 MB TEMPERATURES WILL BE DROPPING TO MINUS 16 TO 
MINUS 18C WITH LAKE INDUCED CAPES RISING TO OVER 700 JOULES PER 
KILOGRAM AND EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS OVER 10 THOUSAND FEET. LAKE EFFECT 
PLUMES WILL BE GOING STRONG EAST OF BOTH LAKES. THE BEST 925 MB 
OMEGA FIELDS OFF LAKE ERIE INDICATE A SOUTHWARD DRIFT OVERNIGHT WITH 
THE TRADITIONAL SNOW BELT AREAS OF SOUTHERN ERIE AND WYOMING COUNTY 
PROBABLY GETTING THE HEAVIEST SNOW ALONG WITH THE NORTHERN SECTIONS 
OF CHAUTAUQUA AND CATTARAUGUS COUNTIES. ACCUMULATION RATES OF SNOW 
MAY BE AS HIGH AS 2 INCHES PER HOUR. STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO 
PRODUCE TREACHEROUS DRIVING CONDITIONS IN BADLY BLOWN SNOW. OFF LAKE 
ONTARIO THE LATEST PROJECTED 925 MB OMEGA FIELDS REALLY HAMMER THE 
TUG HILL PLATEAU WITH ONLY A MINOR SHIFT TO THE SOUTH.

MORE OF THE SAME ON FRIDAY AS LAKE EFFECT PARAMETERS REMAIN HEALTHY. 
WINDS WILL STILL BE NOTICEABLE BUT NOT AS STRONG. NAM12 MODEL 
STEERING WINDS INDICATE THE LAKE ERIE BAND WILL OSCILLATE NORTH 
AGAIN FOR AWHILE...MAYBE AS FAR NORTH AS BUFFALO BEFORE SHIFTING 
SOUTH AGAIN FRIDAY NIGHT. THE PLUME OFF LAKE ONTARIO LOOKS LIKE IT 
WILL STAY FAIRLY STEADY STATE ALTHOUGH SMALL OSCULATIONS CAN BE 
EXPECTED.

BY SATURDAY MORNING THE STEERING WINDS FAVOR A 280 FLOW OFF BOTH 
LAKES WITH A SOUTHWARD SHIFT CONTINUING DURING THE DAY. THE LAKE 
EFFECT WILL LIKELY BECOME MORE DIFFUSE SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT 
AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE MOVING IN FROM THE WEST LOWERS THE 
EQUILIBRIUM LEVEL.

WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE THE HARDEST HIT AREAS EAST OF LAKE ERIE 
WILL LIKELY END UP WITH 2 TO 3 FEET OF SNOW AND THE TUG HILL AREA 
WILL LIKELY GET MORE THAN 3 FEET.

EXPECT A COLD NIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT AS WINDS LIGHTEN. A FRESH 
SNOWPACK...ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF THE LAKES...WILL GUARANTEE BELOW 
NORMAL TEMPERATURES.

&&

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...
SUNDAY SFC HIGH PRESSURE WILL SLOWLY SLIDE OFF THE NEW ENGLAND 
COASTLINE. ALL LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOULD HAVE ENDED BY SUNDAY WITH 
SKIES A MIX OF CLOUDS AND SUN. WENT WITH THE 12Z ECMWF AND 12Z GGEM 
WHICH KEEPS THE REGION DRY SUNDAY...WHICH IS ALSO CONTINUITY. THE 
12Z GFS DEVELOPS A WEAK SHORTWAVE ACROSS THE REGION WITH 
PRECIPITATION BUT WITH LITTLE ENSEMBLE SUPPORT FROM THE MREF...WILL 
MAINTAIN A DRY DAY. 

UNCERTAINTY IN THE FORECAST INCREASES TO START THE WORK WEEK. THE 
ECMWF DELAYS A COLD FRONT TILL MUCH LATER IN THE WEEK...WHILE THE 
12Z GFS BRINGS A COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT. THE 
GGEM PLACES A COLD FRONT ON OUR DOORSTEPS TUESDAY MORNING. 

FOR NOW WILL CARRY LOW CHANCE POPS MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY. 
WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR NORMAL...AND POTENTIALLY ABOVE NORMAL 
DEPENDING ON TIMING OF COLD FRONT. THESE TEMPERATURES WILL ALLOW FOR 
SOME RAIN/MIXED PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF THE NEXT COLD FRONT.  

BOTH MODELS DO AGREE THAT THERE WILL BE A VERY COLD AIRMASS BEHIND 
THIS FRONT OVER THE UPPER LAKES BY MIDWEEK WITH 850 MB TEMPS OF -25C 
OR LOWER. SOME OF THIS MAY BE DRAWN DOWN INTO OUR REGION BY LATER 
NEXT WEEK...SO LOOK FOR BELOW NORMAL TEMPS.

&&

.AVIATION /20Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/...
INTENSE LOW PRESSURE CENTERED OVER LAKE MICHIGAN WILL MOVE TO THE
NORTHEAST AND REACH GEORGIAN BAY BY LATE AFTERNOON...THEN CONTINUE
ON INTO WESTERN QUEBEC TONIGHT. A COLD FRONT TRAILING SOUTH OF THE
LOW WILL CROSS WESTERN NEW YORK LATE THIS AFTERNOON...THEN TRACK
ACROSS THE REST OF THE AREA THIS EARLY THIS EVENING. A BAND OF
SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE THUNDERSTORMS WILL ACCOMPANY THE FRONT
PASSAGE.

BEHIND THE FRONT...A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW OF MUCH COLDER AIR 
WILL OVERSPREAD THE REGION THIS EVENING...WITH SUSTAINED SURFACE 
WINDS INCREASING INTO THE 25-35 KNOT RANGE...WITH GUSTS REACHING AS 
HIGH AS 45-50 KNOTS. AS THE COLDER AIR OVERSPREADS THE RELATIVELY 
WARMER GREAT LAKES...SNOW SQUALLS WILL ALSO DEVELOP NORTHEAST OF THE 
LAKES...AFFECTING THE KBUF/KIAG TERMINALS THIS EVENING...AND KART 
BEGINNING OVERNIGHT. THE COMBINATION OF THE SNOW SQUALLS AND STRONG 
WINDS WILL RESULT IN CONDITIONS DETERIORATING TO IFR AND THEN LIFR 
IN THE AREAS OF LAKE EFFECT TONIGHT...WITH SOME IFR TO MVFR SNOW 
SHOWERS FOUND ELSEWHERE.

VERY WINDY CONDITIONS AND AREAS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL PREVAIL 
THROUGH THURSDAY. THE STEADIEST LAKE SNOWS OFF LAKE ERIE ARE 
EXPECTED TO SET UP JUST SOUTH OF KBUF...WHILE THE HEAVIER SNOW EAST 
OF LAKE ONTARIO WILL IMPACT KART. IFR TO LIFR CONDITIONS WILL BE 
COMMON WITHIN THE MAIN SNOWBANDS. OTHERWISE...EXPECT MVFR TO VFR 
CONDITIONS IN SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS AND BLOWING SNOW. 

OUTLOOK...

THURSDAY NIGHT...MAINLY MVFR/IFR SNOW SHOWERS AND SQUALLS...MAINLY 
SOUTH OF KBUF. STRONG SURFACE WINDS CONTINUING.
FRIDAY...VFR/MVFR IN SNOW SHOWERS. 
SATURDAY...VFR/MVFR IN SNOW SHOWERS. 
SUNDAY AND MONDAY...MAINLY VFR.

&&

.MARINE...
A VERY DEEP STORM SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE ON ITS TREK NORTHEASTWARD 
TONIGHT...REACHING AN AREA NORTH OF THE CANADIAN MARITIMES BY 
THURSDAY EVENING. THE STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS 
SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE STRONG WINDS ACROSS THE LOWER LAKES 
REGION.

FOR LAKE ONTARIO...WINDS WILL INCREASE TO GALE FORCE TONIGHT WITH 
OCCASIONAL STORM FORCE WIND GUSTS LATE TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY 
MORNING. 

AS THE DEEP LOW LIFTS AWAY ACROSS QUEBEC THURSDAY NIGHT AND 
FRIDAY...WINDS WILL VERY SLOWLY SUBSIDE ACROSS BOTH LAKES.

WAVES ON BOTH LAKES WILL LIKELY BUILD TO BETWEEN 15 AND 20 FEET.

&&

.BUF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NY...HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR NYZ001-002-007-
     008-010>012-019>021-085.
     LAKESHORE FLOOD WARNING UNTIL 7 AM EST THURSDAY FOR NYZ010-019-
     085.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 2 AM THURSDAY TO 7 AM EST 
     SATURDAY FOR NYZ012-085.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 2 AM THURSDAY TO 1 PM EST 
     SATURDAY FOR NYZ007-008.
     HIGH WIND WARNING UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR NYZ003>006-013-
     014.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 1 PM THURSDAY TO 1 PM EST 
     SATURDAY FOR NYZ006.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR 
     NYZ003.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM EST 
     THURSDAY FOR NYZ001-002.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 4 AM THURSDAY TO 7 AM EST 
     SATURDAY FOR NYZ019-020.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 10 PM EST 
     THURSDAY FOR NYZ010-011.
     LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY FROM 7 AM THURSDAY TO 7 AM EST 
     FRIDAY FOR NYZ013-014.
MARINE...STORM WARNING UNTIL 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR LEZ020-040-041.
         GALE WARNING FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 PM EST 
         THURSDAY FOR LOZ042>045-062>065.
         GALE WARNING FROM 1 AM TO 7 PM EST THURSDAY FOR 
         SLZ022-024.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS...SAGE
NEAR TERM...HITCHCOCK
SHORT TERM...SAGE
LONG TERM...THOMAS
AVIATION...TJP
MARINE...SAGE


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