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Benson Landing, Vermont, United States
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 Lat: 43.73N, Lon: 73.37W
Wx Zone: VTZ011 ICAO Used: KRUT
Area Discussion for County Warning Area ALY:
FXUS61 KALY 251119
AFDALY

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
620 AM EST WED NOV 25 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
WEAK HIGH PRESSURE WILL DRIFT TO THE GULF OF MAINE TODAY WHILE A 
VERY WEAK DISTURBANCE BRINGS A FEW VERY LIGHT SHOWERS TO SOME SPOTS 
BY AFTERNOON. OUR REGION WILL BE BETWEEN TWO STORM SYSTEMS ON 
THANKSGIVING DAY WHICH WILL YIELD A DRY MILD DAY. AN STRONG UPPER 
LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL ACROSS THE REGION ON FRIDAY BRINGING 
UNSETTLED WEATHER. 

&&

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/...
RADARS INDICATING SOME SPRITZ MOVING UP ACROSS THE 
ADIRONDACKS...WITH PERHAPS AN HUNDREDTH OF AN INCH OR TWO. WHILE A 
STORM SYSTEM IN THE OHIO VALLEY WILL MISS US BY GOING NORTH...A 
PIECE OF VORTICITY HAS BROKEN AWAY FROM THE MAIN FEATURE (ALONG WITH 
A VERY WEAK SURFACE TROUGH). THIS VERY WEAK DISTURBANCE IS 
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VERY LIGHT SHOWERS WHICH WITH TIME...WILL 
ATTEMPT TO PROPAGATE EASTWARD ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE REGION BY 
AFTERNOON. AT MOST...SCATTERED LIGHT SHOWERS MIGHT BRING A COUPLE OF 
HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH IN A FEW SPOTS BUT THIS SYSTEM SHOULD HAVE NO 
IMPACT ON TRAVEL. KEEP IN MIND...THAT MANY SPOTS WILL NOT RECEIVE 
ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY. 

HOWEVER...PATCHY DENSE FOG COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR SOME EARLY IN THE 
MORNING BEFORE BURNING OFF. 

WITH THE DISTURBANCE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF CLOUDS TODAY...BUT A FEW 
BREAKS OF SUNSHINE ARE POSSIBLE. WITH MORE CLOUDS AND THE WIDELY 
SCATTERED SHOWERS...LOWERED TEMPS A COUPLE OF POINTS COMPARED TO 
WHAT WE HAD YESTERDAY. ACTUALLY WENT A DEGREE HIGHER THAN THE 
MET/MAV BLENDS WHICH FOR A CHANGE...WERE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.       

&&

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
THE REASON THE OHIO STORM WILL MAINLY MISS US (EXCEPT FOR THE 
VORTICITY PIECE) IS BECAUSE ANOTHER SYSTEM WAS DIVING SOUTH FROM 
MANITOBA CANADA. THIS SYSTEM IS FORCING THE FIRST ONE TO EJECT 
NORTHWARD INTO ONTARIO. THIS SECOND SYSTEM IS THE ONE THAT WILL 
LIKELY IMPACT OUR REGION ON FRIDAY. HOWEVER...BEFORE THEN...OUR AREA 
WILL BE SANDWICHED BETWEEN A DEVELOPING OCEAN STORM WELL TO OUR 
EAST...AND THE IMPENDING UPPER AIR LOW SYSTEM TO OUR WEST ON 
THANKSGIVING DAY. 

THE AFOREMENTIONED WEAK DISTURBANCE MIGHT STILL BRING A SHOWER OR 
TWO THIS EVENING BEFORE LIFTING TO OUR NORTHEAST OVERNIGHT. BEHIND 
IT...WITH NO REAL HIGH PRESSURE IN PLACE...CLOUDS COULD BE SLOW TO 
BREAK UP (IF AT ALL). WITH DRYING IN THE MID LEVELS BUT MOISTURE 
POSSIBLY INCREASING IN THE LOWER LEVELS...A LITTLE PATCHY DRIZZLE 
MIGHT ENSUE OVERNIGHT TONIGHT.

THEN ON THANKSGIVING DAY...THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WILL BE PREDICTING 
THE SKY COVER. OTHERWISE...IT SHOULD BE A DRY DAY. OUR THINKING IS 
THE DAY WILL START OFF CLOUDY (OR MOSTLY CLOUDY) WITH SOME MIDDAY 
BREAKS BEFORE CLOUDS REDEVELOP AGAIN LATE IN THE DAY. THROUGH IT 
ALL...WE WILL ENJOY ONE MORE MILD DAY AS H850 TEMPERATURES REMAIN IN 
THE 1C-3C WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LITTLE MORE MIXING COMPARED TO 
PREVIOUS DAYS. EVEN WITH MORE CLOUDS THAN SUNSHINE...TEMPERATURES 
WILL GENERALLY TOP OUT IN THE 50-55 RANGE...EXCEPT 45-50 IN MOUNTAIN 
AREAS. THESE VALUES ARE A GOOD 5-7 DEGS ABOVE SEASONAL AVERAGES. IT 
LOOKS AS IF NO THANKSGIVING WEATHER RECORDS WILL BE THREATEN IN THE 
ALBANY (RAINFALL/SNOWFALL/TEMPERATURES ETC.). IT WILL BE 
CONSIDERABLY MILDER THAN LAST YEAR WHEN THE HIGH WAS ONLY 43 DEGREES 
IN ALBANY.

BY THANKSGIVING NIGHT...THE NEW UPPER AIR LOW WILL BE APPROACHING 
WESTERN NEW YORK STATE. AT THE SAME TIME...THE DEVELOPING COASTAL 
STORM...A SPIN OFF FROM THE SOUTHERN SUBTROPICAL JET WILL BE TO OUR 
EAST. THE HUGE WEATHER PROBLEM IS WHETHER OR NOT ENERGY FROM THE 
OCEAN STORM WILL PHASE WITH THE ENERGY FROM THE NORTHERN BRANCH 
(UPPER AIR LOW). IF IT WERE...A SIGNIFICANT PRE WINTER STORM WOULD 
ENSUE. HOWEVER...THE SIGNALS ARE NOT CLEAR THAT A FULL PHASING WILL 
HAPPEN. 

THE GFS/EUROPEAN/CANADIAN MODELS SUGGEST THAT A FULL PHASING WILL 
NOT OCCUR...UNTIL BOTH SYSTEM ARE NORTH AND EAST OF OUR REGION. THAT 
IS NOT TO SAY WE WILL ESCAPE PRECIPITATION. THERE IS A LOT OF 
MOISTURE WITH THE SOUTHERN STORM NOTED ON THE WATER VAPOR LOOP. IT 
DOES APPEARS THAT SOME OF THIS MOISTURE WILL BE EJECTED INTO THE 
UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM...WITH OR WITHOUT THE SURFACE STORM. 

THE NAM CONTINUES TO MORE OF AN OUTLIER...SUGGESTING MOISTURE WILL 
BE VERY LIMIT WITH THE UPPER AIR LOW...AS THE SURFACE LOW IS EVEN A 
LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE UPPER AIR STORM.   

THEE IS STILL A BIT SPREAD OF THE SURFACE TRACK ON THE GFS 
ENSEMBLES. 

BOTTOM LINE...A LOT UNCERTAINTY STILL CONTINUES WITH THE EVOLUTION 
OF THIS UPCOMING STORM. THE FIRST OHIO VALLEY STORM...THE ONE THAT 
WILL GET EJECTED NORTHWARD...MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH PUSH TO DISPLACE THE 
BAROCLINIC ZONE FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST WHICH WOULD FORCE THE COASTAL 
STORM TO STAY FURTHER TO OUR EAST. THUS FAR...THIS BAROCLINIC ZONE 
IS NOT IMPRESSIVE...BUT WILL BECOME MORE SO BY THURSDAY NIGHT. 

FOR THE ABOVE REASONS...WILL CONTINUE WITH LIKELY POPS LATE 
THANKSGIVING NIGHT AND FRIDAY (AS OPPOSED TO CATEGORICAL). MOST 
MODELS ARE PICKING UP ON SOME ELEVATION DIFFERENCE IN QPF...WHICH 
SEEMS VERY REASONABLE GIVEN PAST CSTAR RESEARCH ON THE MATTER OF 
COLD CUTOFF LOWS. THE STUDIES HAVE INDICATE HIGHER TERRAIN COULD 
RECEIVE UP TO SEVERAL TIMES MORE PRECIPITATION THAN THE VALLEY 
AREAS.  

THE 00Z EUROPEAN DEVELOPS A DEFORMATION ZONE TO THE EAST OF 
THE HUDSON VALLEY WHILE THE 00Z GFS DEVELOPED IT TO THE WEST. EITHER 
WAY...IT WILL TAKE MORE TO DETERMINE WHERE ANY PRECIPITATION MAXIMA 
WOULD TAKE PLACE.

PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION LATE THURSDAY NIGHT 
INTO FRIDAY. INITIALLY THE AIR LOOKS WARM ENOUGH FOR ALL RAIN...EVEN 
IN THE MOUNTAINS. HOWEVER...WITH TIME...THE COLUMN WILL COOL ENOUGH 
FOR A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN. IT MIGHT TAKE 
MOST OF THE DAY FRIDAY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. HOWEVER...IF 
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE HEAVIER THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY 
FORECASTING...COOLING FROM MELTING SNOWFLAKES COULD COOL THE COLUMN 
DOWN MUCH FASTER. RIGHT THOUGH...THE PROBABILITY OF A 24-HR ONE INCH 
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS LOOKED SMALL ON THE 00Z MREFS AND EVEN SMALLER 
ON THE SREFS. 

OVERNIGHT LOW TEMPERATURES THANKSGIVING NIGHT LOOKS TO BE IN 30S 
BUT ABOVE FREEZING. THEN...THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT RISE MUCH ON 
FRIDAY...AND IN SOME CASES MIGHT ACTUALLY FALL...AS THE WIND TURNS 
NORTH TO NORTHWESTERLY AND THE H850 TEMPERATURE COOL BELOW 
0C...WHILE H925 TEMPERATURES APPROACH ZERO IN THE MOUNTAINS.

LEFT-OVER "WRAP AROUND" MAINLY UPSLOPE PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO LINGER 
INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. BY THIS TIME...TEMPERATURES WILL DROP AROUND THE 
FREEZING MARK IN VALLEY LOCATIONS....20S OVER THE MOUNTAINS. THERE 
IS A POTENTIAL FOR DUSTING OF SNOW EVEN IN VALLEY LOCATIONS...AND 
PERHAPS SEVERAL INCHES OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN. THE OCEAN STORM 
SHOULD BE A FULL BLOWN NOR'EASTER BY FRIDAY NIGHT...SITTING OVER THE 
GULF OF MAINE. AS IT BEGINS TO PULL AWAY...A GUSTY NORTHWEST WIND 
WILL KICK IN. MORE ABOUT THAT WILL FOLLOW IN THE LONG TERM 
DISCUSSION.            
  

&&

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
IN THE WAKE OF THE NOR-EASTER...COLD ADVECTION WILL PURSUE ON THE 
HEELS OF STRONG WESTERLY WINDS.  MOMENTUM TRANSFER POTENTIAL 
SUGGESTS WE EFFECTIVELY TAP INTO THE MID-UPPER 40KT RANGE AS THIS 
WOULD QUALIFY FOR WIND HEADLINES ON SATURDAY.  WE WILL CONTINUE TO 
HIGHLIGHT IN THE HWO THIS MORNING.  FURTHERMORE...WITH THE COLDER 
AND MOIST CYCLONIC FLOW AND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM LAKE 
ONTARIO...RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED.  WITH FAVORABLE UPSLOPE 
AREAS SUCH AS THE DACKS...SOUTHERN GREENS AND PORTIONS OF THE 
CATSKILLS...POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER 
CONTINUES TO COOL OFF THROUGH THE DAY.

SATURDAY NIGHT...WEATHER IMPROVES QUICKLY AS SURFACE PRESSURE 
GRADIENT RELAXES AND DECOUPLING OCCURS AS SURFACE TEMPS ARE EXPECTED 
TO COOL OFF RATHER QUICKLY DURING THE EVENING.  SUBSIDENCE WILL ALSO 
INCREASE WHICH WILL AID IN THE REDUCTION OF CLOUD COVER FOR A CHILLY 
NIGHT.  DEPENDING ON WHERE SNOW COVER SETS UP WILL DICTATE THE 
OVERNIGHT LOWS.  FOR NOW...WE WILL GENERALLY FAVORS THE 20S FOR THE 
MAJORITY OF THE CWA.

FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEKEND...UPSTREAM THE NEXT TROUGH 
EVOLVES AS STRONG PACIFIC SYSTEM COMES ASHORE.  THE UPPER PATTERN 
FAVORS A MORE ELONGATED LONG WAVE TROUGH THIS TIME AROUND WHICH WILL 
ALLOW FOR MORE POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO.  SUNDAY 
SHOULD REMAIN DRY AND SEASONABLE AS THIS UPSTREAM FEATURE/S/ UNFOLD.

FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK...MODELS WILL NATURALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH 
RESOLVING WAVES AND STRENGTH OF THESE SYSTEMS.  CONSENSUS FAVORS AN 
INCREASE IN CLOUD COVER AND PRECIPITATION AS GULF MOISTURE TRANSPORT 
INCREASES OVER THE EASTERN US. 

&&

.AVIATION /12Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...
VARIETY OF FLIGHT CATEGORIES THIS MORNING ACROSS THE TAF SITES WITH 
A SOLID STRATUS DECK SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL REGION /MVFR CIG/ AND 
POCKETS OF IFR FROM THE CAPITAL REGION AND POINTS NORTH DUE TO FOG.  
WITH AN INFLUX OF MOISTURE CONTINUING THROUGH THE DAY...TAF SITES 
ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE UNIFORM WITH MVFR CIGS WITH A LIGHT 
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST WIND.  THERE COULD BE SOME LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS...AS 
SEEN ON THE RADAR THIS MORNING OVER CENTRAL NY AND THE 
DACKS...APPROACHING THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE HUDSON RIVER VALLEY AND 
WILL PLACE VCSH AT THIS TIME.

LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IS EXPECTED TO QUICKLY INCREASE TOWARD THIS 
EVENING WITH THE CHANCE FOR EITHER LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE.  THIS TOO 
WILL LOWER THE CIGS DOWN TO AT LEAST IFR...PERHAPS LOWER...AND WE 
WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS.
   
OUTLOOK... 
THANKSGIVING DAY...VFR TO MVFR...CIG...NO SIG WX AT THIS TIME.
THU NGT-FRI...MVFR/IFR...-SHRA/PDS -RA. CHC LLWS.
FRI NGT-SAT...MVFR/IFR...-SHRA CHG TO -SHSNRA. POSS LLWS. WINDY.
SUN...VFR. NO SIG WX.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...
NO HYDRO PROBLEMS THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY.

THE NEXT CHANCE OF WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION WILL BE FROM LATE 
THURSDAY NIGHT INTO THE EARLY PART OF THE WEEKEND...AS A POTENTIALLY 
STRONG STORM MAY IMPACT THE REGION. HOWEVER...AT THIS POINT... 
ENOUGH RAINFALL TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT AREA STREAMS AND RIVERS DOES 
NOT APPEAR LIKELY AS RIVER BASIN AVERAGE ARE FORECASTED TO REMAIN 
BELOW AN INCH REGION WIDE.

FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING
OBSERVED AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE
VISIT THE ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON
OUR WEBSITE.

&&

.ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CT...NONE.
NY...NONE.
MA...NONE.
VT...NONE.

&&

$$
SYNOPSIS...HWJIV
NEAR TERM...HWJIV
SHORT TERM...HWJIV
LONG TERM...BGM
AVIATION...BGM
HYDROLOGY...HWJIV/GJM

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