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Ancram, New York, United States (12502)
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 Lat: 42.05N, Lon: 73.64W
Wx Zone: NYZ061 ICAO Used: KPOU
Area Discussion for County Warning Area ALY:
FXUS61 KALY 070930
AFDALY

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
430 AM EST MON DEC 7 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
A WEAK LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL APPROACH FROM THE WEST 
TODAY...BRINGING CLOUDS...ALONG WITH SNOW SHOWERS AND FLURRIES TO 
CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON AND 
EVENING. A WEAK RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD EASTWARD ACROSS 
THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY...ACCOMPANIED BY FAIR AND 
SEASONABLY COLD CONDITIONS. A STRONG STORM SYSTEM WILL APPROACH FROM 
THE GREAT LAKES FOR WEDNESDAY...BRINGING A WINTRY MIX CHANGING TO 
RAIN.

&&

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/...
AS OF 430 AM EST...A WEAKENING LAKE EFFECT SNOWBAND WAS OCCURRING 
ACROSS EXTREME NORTHERN HERKIMER AND HAMILTON COUNTIES. HOWEVER...AS 
THE INVERSION LOWERS...AND LOW LEVEL WINDS BACK INTO THE SW...THIS 
BAND SHOULD WEAKEN AND/OR LIFT N OF THE REGION BY SUNRISE.

A RATHER POTENT UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE...CURRENTLY TRAVERSING THE MID 
MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY...WILL CONTINUE MOVING RAPIDLY ENE 
TODAY...REACHING OUR REGION BY THIS EVENING. DESPITE FAIRLY HEALTHY 
UPPER LEVEL DYNAMICS...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE RATHER SCARCE. IN 
ADDITION...THE SFC LOW WILL REMAIN RATHER WEAK. THUS...WE DO EXPECT 
THICKENING CLOUDS TODAY...ALONG WITH SNOW SHOWERS DEVELOPING LATER 
THIS AFTERNOON. HOWEVER...THE SNOW SHOULD REMAIN INTERMITTENT AND 
SOMEWHAT SHOWERY...AND REMAIN CONFINED MAINLY TO AREAS FROM THE 
CAPITAL REGION N AND NW. THERE COULD BE A FEW HEAVIER SNOW SHOWERS 
TOWARD SUNSET...WHICH WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED DUE TO TIMING 
COINCIDENT WITH THE PEAK RUSH HOUR. AT THIS TIME...IT APPEARS THAT 
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS SHOULD REMAIN LESS THAN ONE INCH...WITH ONLY A 
COATING EXPECTED FROM ALBANY S AND E INTO THE BERKS. MUCH OF THIS 
ACCUM SHOULD OCCUR MAINLY ON COLDER...GRASSY SURFACES...GIVEN THE 
EXPECTATION FOR MAX TEMPS TO WARM INTO THE MID 30S IN MOST AREAS. 
THESE MAXES ARE CLOSEST TO THE MET MOS.

&&

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT/...
TONIGHT...THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE WILL CROSS OUR REGION THIS 
EVENING. NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION...ESPECIALLY FROM THE 
MOHAWK RIVER VALLEY NORTHWARD...LOOK TO BE WITHIN THE REMAINING 
DEFORMATION AREA...AND SHOULD HAVE THE GREATEST CHANCE FOR 
MEASURABLE SNOW BEFORE MIDNIGHT. AGAIN...WE CURRENTLY EXPECT ACCUMS 
TO ONLY REACH ONE INCH WITHIN THIS REGION...AND SLIGHTLY LESS 
FURTHER S AND SE. THEN...SOME LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES ARE 
POSSIBLE AFTER MIDNIGHT...ALONG WITH SOME POSSIBLE LAKE ENHANCEMENT 
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE THE WESTERN DACKS INTO THE WESTERN MOHAWK 
VALLEY...WHICH COULD LEAVE 1-3 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL WITHIN 
ANY PERSISTENT SNOWBAND. OTHERWISE...WE STILL EXPECT CLOUDS TO 
LINGER ACROSS CENTRAL AND NORTHERN AREAS GIVEN A LOWERING 
INVERSION...AND AMPLE LAKE MOISTURE. THUS...WE HAVE LEANED A BIT 
CLOSER TO THE WARMER MET MOS FOR MINS...WHICH ARE MAINLY IN THE MID 
20S WITHIN THE VALLEYS...AND LOWER 20S FOR SOME HIGHER 
ELEVATIONS...AS WELL AS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MID HUDSON 
VALLEY...WHERE LESS CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED...POTENTIALLY ALLOWING FOR A 
MORE ROBUST FALL IN TEMPS.

TUE...SOME LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES WILL REMAIN POSSIBLE 
ACROSS THE WESTERN DACKS THROUGH THE MORNING...BUT THESE SHOULD 
TAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON AS THE AFOREMENTIONED SUBSIDENCE 
INVERSION LOWERS FURTHER...AND WINDS GRADUALLY BECOME LIGHT AND BACK 
IN DIRECTION...DISRUPTING ANY LAKE BANDS THAT STILL EXIST. LOWER 
CLOUDS COULD STILL LINGER INTO AT LEAST THE MIDDAY HOURS ACROSS 
CENTRAL/NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE REGION...GIVEN THE EXPECTED WNW LOW 
LEVEL FLOW ADVECTING MOISTURE FROM THE LAKES. FOR MAX TEMPS...HAVE 
SIDED WITH A MAV/MET MOS BLEND...ACCOUNTING FOR THE POSSIBILITY THAT 
CLOUDS PERSIST LONGER.

TUE NT/WED...COMPLEX STORM SYSTEM WILL INTENSIFY AND HEAD INTO THE 
CENTRAL GREAT LAKES ON WED...WHILE A WEAK SECONDARY LOW MAY DEVELOP 
ALONG THE WARM FRONT AND HEAD TOWARD THE GULF OF MAINE. GIVEN THAT 
THE PRIMARY LOW IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN QUITE STRONG...ENOUGH WARM AIR 
IS EXPECTED TO BECOME ENTRAINED IN THE MID/UPPER LEVELS OF THE 
ATMOSPHERE TO PREVENT AN ALL SNOW SCENARIO FOR OUR REGION. 
HOWEVER...LOW LEVEL COLD AIR MAY BE TOUGH TO SCOUR OUT...ESP N OF 
THE MOHAWK RIVER VALLEY...POTENTIALLY LEADING TO AT LEAST A PERIOD 
OF MIXED PRECIP...INCLUDING FREEZING RAIN LATE WED MORNING INTO THE 
AFTERNOON. AT THIS TIME...IT APPEARS AS IF A BURST OF MOD/HVY SNOW 
IS POSSIBLE REGIONWIDE WITH THE INITIAL BURST OF WARM ADVECTION 
EARLY WED MORNING...WITH A QUICK 1-3 INCHES OF ACCUM IN MANY VALLEY 
LOCALES...INCLUDING WITHIN THE CAPITAL REGION...AND PERHAPS 3-6 
INCHES ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CAPITAL REGION INTO THE LAKE 
GEORGE/SARATOGA/GLENS FALLS AREA...AND INTO THE MOHAWK VALLEY AND 
SOUTH CENTRAL VT BEFORE ANY CHANGEOVER TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN/RAIN 
BY LATE MORNING. AND...FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN DACKS...SLIGHTLY 
HIGHER ACCUMS OF 4-8 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE...IN ADDITION TO A FEW 
TENTHS OF AN INCH OF ICE ACCRETION. THIS CURRENT SCENARIO WOULD 
POINT TO WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY CRITERIA...AND WILL ADDRESS IN  
HWOALY SINCE WE ARE CURRENTLY THINKING CRITERIA SHOULD FALL SHORT OF 
WARNING LEVELS. NEVERTHELESS...DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE SNOW/MIXED 
PRECIP...AND SINCE THIS WILL BE THE SEASONS FIRST SUCH EVENT...WE 
EXPECT THIS EVENT TO HAVE A RATHER HIGH SOCIETAL IMPACT WED MORNING. 
THE PRECIP SHOULD CHANGE TO PLAIN RAIN BY WED AFTERNOON FROM THE 
CAPITAL REGION SOUTH...AND EVENTUALLY ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION BY 
LATE AFTERNOON. WINDS WILL ALSO BECOME LOCALLY GUSTY WED 
AFTERNOON...ESP ACROSS HIGHER ELEVATIONS ACROSS SW VT AND NW 
MA...WHERE GUSTS COULD APPROACH ADVISORY LEVELS. WILL ADDRESS THIS 
IN THE HWOALY. FOR TEMPS...WE EXPECT MINS WED AM TO FALL INTO THE 
25-30 RANGE WITHIN MOST VALLEYS...EXCEPT TO 20-25 ACROSS THE NORTH 
COUNTRY AND SOUTHERN VT...WITH MOST MINS OCCURRING SEVERAL HOURS 
BEFORE 12Z/WED AND THEN RISING. FOR WED MAXES...GENERALLY SIDED 
CLOSE TO THE MET MOS...WITH MID/UPPER 30S EXPECTED ACROSS MANY 
AREAS...EXCEPT TO 40-45 ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MID HUDSON VALLEY.

WED NT...STEADIER PRECIP SHOULD BE TAPERING OFF FROM SW TO NE WED 
EVENING...WITH JUST RAIN SHOWERS EXPECTED EARLY. A PERIOD OF DRYING 
IS POSSIBLE DURING WED NT...ESP WITHIN THE VALLEYS AS STRONG W WINDS 
DEVELOP. THEN...SOME LAKE ENHANCED/OROGRAPHIC EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS 
ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR LATE WED NT ACROSS THE WESTERN DACKS. 
ELSEWHERE...TEMPS MAY INITIALLY REMAIN STEADY OR EVEN RISE A BIT 
EARLY DUE TO DEEP AND STRONG MIXING...WITH TEMPS GRADUALLY FALLING 
INTO THE 20S TO LOWER 3OS BY THU AM...COLDEST ACROSS HIGHER 
ELEVATIONS ACROSS WESTERN AREAS. WINDS COULD APPROACH ADVISORY 
LEVELS IN SOME AREAS TOWARD THU MORNING...ESP ACROSS THE WESTERN 
ADIRONDACKS WHERE SFC PRESSURE RISES WILL BE GREATEST.

&&

.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...
MJO TRENDING TO WEAK PHASE 8 OR NEUTRAL JUST OUTSIDE OF PHASE 8. 
THIS WOULD SEEM TO SUPPORT SOME SEMBLANCE OF A BROAD NORTHERN STREAM 
UPPER TROUGH OVER EASTER NORTH AMERICA.  SINCE THE CORE OF COLDEST 
AIR CROSSED THE POLE FROM SIBERIA RECENTLY...SETTING UP IN 
NORTHERN/CENTRAL CANADA...SOME OF THIS COLD AIR WILL AFFECT OUR 
REGION.  

SYSTEM EXITS THURSDAY MORNING...AND HIGH PRESSURE SLOW TO BUILD INTO 
THE REGION FROM THE MIDWEST AND OH VALLEY.  DECENT PRESSURE GRADIENT 
BETWEEN STRONG LOW PRESSURE IN EASTERN CANADA AND THE HIGH 
PRESSURE...WILL PRODUCE WEST LOW LEVEL FLOW...AND WITH CONSIDERABLY 
COLD BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES...LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND SNOW 
SHOWER ACTIVITY WILL SET UP THURSDAY THROUGH PERHAPS SATURDAY.  MOST 
AREAS WILL SEE PERIODS OF CLOUDS AND PERHAPS SOME FLURRIES...WITH 
POSSIBLE ACCUMULATIONS IN HERKIMER AND HAMILTON COUNTIES.  

BASED ON THE CLOUD COVER AND BOUNDARY LAYER COOLDOWN...HIGHS 
THURSDAY IN THE MID 30S IN THE HUDSON VALLEY...UPPER 20S TO LOWER 
30S MOST OTHER PLACES. NIGHTTIME LOWS THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH 
SATURDAY NIGHT WILL BE IN THE TEENS MOST HUDSON VALLEY AREAS...INTO 
THE SINGLE NUMBERS IN THE MOUNTAINS.  HIGHS FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY IN 
THE UPPER 20S TO AROUND 30 HUDSON VALLEY...TO LOWER TO MID 20S 
MOUNTAINS.

OTHER THAN THE LAKE EFFECT MOISTURE...NO LARGER SCALE SYSTEMS ARE 
PREDICTED TO AFFECT OUR REGION THROUGH NEXT SUNDAY...BUT NEED TO 
WATCH ONE SYSTEM EXPECTED TO TRACK SOUTH OF THE REGION LATE IN THE 
WEEK.  HIGH PRESSURE TIMED TO MOVE INTO OUR REGION AROUND SATURDAY 
AND SUNDAY...TURNING SURFACE FLOW TO NORTH AND NORTHWEST...AND 
EVENTUALLY VERY LIGHT...SO LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOULD END SATURDAY 
THROUGH SUNDAY.

&&

.AVIATION /09Z MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/...
VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE...WITH LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND MOISTURE 
OCCASIONALLY NOSING EAST INTO THE KALB AND KGFL AREAS WITH SCATTERED 
VARIABLE BROKEN CLOUDS AT AROUND 5000 FEET THROUGH THIS MORNING. MID 
AND HIGH CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER WEAK SYSTEM TRACKING OUT OF 
THE OH/TN VALLEY WILL GIVE PERIODS OF MID AND HIGH CLOUDS TO THE 
REGION THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. SOME FLURRY ACTIVITY IS POSSIBLE 
THROUGH TODAY AT KGFL AND KALB. AT KPOU...JUST SOME PERIODS OF MID 
TO HIGH CLOUDS AT OR ABOVE 12000 FEET. THIS EVENING...SCATTERED 
VARIABLE BROKEN CLOUDS AT AROUND 5000 FEET WILL AFFECT ALL THREE 
SITES.

WINDS WILL BE NEAR THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS...THEN SHIFT
TO THE S-SW AROUND 5 KT OR LESS THIS MORNING...CONTINUING THIS
AFTERNOON...THEN DIMINISHING BACK BELOW 5 KT THIS EVENING.

OUTLOOK...
MON NGT-TUE...VFR. NO SIG WX. 
WED...MVFR/IFR. SN/RA LIKELY.
THUR...VFR/MVFR...CHC -SHSN. WINDY.
FRI...VFR. SO SIG WX.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...
NO HYDRO PROBLEMS EXPECTED THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY AS ANY 
PRECIPITATION UP TO THAT TIME WILL COME IN THE FORM OF SNOW AND THUS 
HAVE NO DIRECT IMPACT ON THE RIVERS. 

ON WEDNESDAY...SNOW MIXING WITH OR CHANGING TO RAIN COULD PRODUCE 
SOME HYDRO PROBLEMS...ESPECIALLY FROM ALBANY SOUTH AND EAST WHERE 
THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF RAIN IS EXPECTED TO FALL AND TEMPERATURES 
WARM UP THE MOST.

FOR DETAILS ON SPECIFIC AREA RIVERS AND LAKES...INCLUDING OBSERVED 
AND FORECAST RIVER STAGES AND LAKE ELEVATIONS...PLEASE VISIT THE 
ADVANCED HYDROLOGIC PREDICTION SERVICE /AHPS/ GRAPHS ON OUR WEBSITE.

&&

.ALY WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CT...NONE.
NY...NONE.
MA...NONE.
VT...NONE.

&&

$$
SYNOPSIS...KL
NEAR TERM...KL
SHORT TERM...KL
LONG TERM...NAS
AVIATION...NAS
HYDROLOGY...GJM/KL


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